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MBC Price Increases - Don't Order Anything Until Tonight

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by MissouriBullet, May 17, 2010.

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  1. MissouriBullet

    MissouriBullet Member

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    The price increases are happening now, maybe 50% complete now. When they are complete and uniform I will modify the THR discount to represent a temporary 10% discount for the rest of the month for you guys. If you use the discount code before the increases are complete, you're throwing away 5%.

    I'll post here in this thread when complete.

    Thanks!

    Brad
     
  2. NOLAEMT

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    Seriously.... You're too nice.

    In case no one told you, the purpose of a business is to make money, if you give away everything you're defeating the purpose.

    But seriously.. thank you!
     
  3. MissouriBullet

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    If you don't take care of your customers, they won't take care of you. It'll all work out in the long term.
     
  4. Claude Clay

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    Brad has the business model pretty down right--

    he is pleasent to talk with and his product is very good value vs price and shipped fast.

    by the way, Brad, still a extra discount for orders of +15,000 (assorted)?
    i'm near to being in need again.
     
  5. Sapper771

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    I placed an order last night and tried to use the 5% discount code, but it kept saying that it was not recognized.
     
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  7. jjohnson

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    Waiting In Line

    Okay........ we'll patiently wait in line here to grab that discount...... time to re-order, boys!

    Dang......... is this guy good to his customers, or what? The only person I know who doesn't like MBC is my mail man............ :p
     
  8. GaryL

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    Already? Where did all that lead go?
     
  9. MissouriBullet

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    The price increases are done, I think. As a reminder, the discount code is THR-Original exactly as you see it. I didn't add quotes because sometimes that confuses some folks :)

    10% for the rest of the month, and thank you guys. You're the best.

    Brad
     
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    We're rubber and your glue... :neener:

    Justin
     
  11. UniversalFrost

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    thanks for posting this. I was getting ready to order some 38 super and 40 bullets.

    will wait a day or so to order then.
     
  12. bds
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    Brad, awesome thing you are doing for THR members. :D

    To show my appreciation, on my next order I will place the order without the discount code.

    Thanks again for what you do!
     
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    Thanks, we all appreciate it.
     
  14. cray2751

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    Hey Brad,
    What made the price go up so much? Is something up with lead? Not complaining but after the 10% discount this month 1k of 230 grn 45 is only 10 to 15 bucks less than plated or fmj.


    I just wish I would have bought more.
     
  15. MissouriBullet

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    Yes, something's up with lead - the price! The last two 22 ton truckloads we bought came in at $.32/lb. more than what our contract price was for all last year. That works out to about $8.00 per thousand bullets (at 200 grains per bullet, average) in added cost. We absorbed the differential for as long as we could, working through the first higher-price truckload and then halfway through the last one, and decided that eating $14,080 per truckload of lead was not reflective of a firm grip on sanity. Hence, the pass-through. We're not profiteering, just trying to maintain a reasonable margin and stay in business.

    We last raised prices in January of 2008, so this one was a long time coming.

    Brad
     
  16. cray2751

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    That's crazy that lead went up that much. Thanks for breaking it down. I wish I would have bought more. The 10% will help if I can come up with some money for some boolits. I have already spent my month gun allowance this month.
     
  17. MissouriBullet

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    The lead market is craziness personified. In the past two years, the spot price has ranged from $.50/lb. to about $2.30/lb. Many casters who didn't have a sufficient supply on hand to weather the extreme high prices went under. We were fortunate to be able to grab a contract for 5 truckloads at a good price last year and actually got one or two more (forget which) at only a little bit higher price than the contract. When that supply ran out we were at the mercy of the market, hence the need to raise our prices.

    When lead drops, our prices will, too.
     
  18. cray2751

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    Its good to know that if it goes down prices will go down to. That's a sign of a good business. Just curious how long does it take to go through a truck load?
     
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    Huh? I think you had better check your math, amigo. Using Midway as my sample (I realize others may have specials, but remember: lead's price affects every bullet mfg. If Brad had to go up [finally], others have had to as well] you see the following prices based on a lot of 500:

    Rainer plated, 230gr .452 from Midway: $79/500 [BACKORDER]
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=1050144214

    Hornady 230gr .451 XTP from Midway: $19.79/100
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=342056

    Winchester 230gr FMJ from Midway: $89.99/500 from Midway [BACKORDER]
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=1390127870

    Missouri Bullet 235gr LRN: $43/500 SHIPS YESTERDAY (it seems)
    http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=59&category=5&secondary=13&keywords=

    Worst case scenario, you save $30 over Rainer; best case you save over half vs. Hornady.

    Q
     
  20. cray2751

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    No the numbers are right. Buying lead still saves but there are a lot of dealers that carry fmj for a great price. I don't buy bullets from Midway and Hornady cost to much. I wasn't downing MBC I have bought my fair share of bullets from them I was just curious.
     
  21. MissouriBullet

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    At current production rates, we do a truckload every 5-6 weeks. But that only of one type of alloy, and we have 2 stock alloy mixtures - one is 2/6 and the other is 1.33/4 (sB and sN, respectively, balance lead.)

    It seems like we use 3 units of the 2/6 for every 2 of the 1.33/4. So that complicates the logistics train a bit but it's manageable.
     
  22. cray2751

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    WOW that's a lot of lead. I like to watch the cam you have set up in the shop. I also hope you didn't think I was trying to bad mouth MBC for the price increase. I totally agree you have to cover you cost. Just curious to what the increases were.
     
  23. longdayjake

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    Brad,

    As you know I am looking into the manufacturing world as well. Because of that I have been watching the lead market for quite some time now and at the moment the market says its at about 85 cents per lb. Are you getting it for 32 cents a lb because it has other alloys mixed in the lead?
     
  24. ReloaderFred

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    He isn't getting it for 32 cents a pound. The current cost is 32 cents a pound MORE than his last contract was for.

    The tin and antimony prices are added to the lead prices, so the spot price isn't indicative of the alloy price, other than to drive it up or down on a percentage basis.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
     
  25. longdayjake

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    Oh. It pays to read more carefully. Thanks!
     
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