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MD: Man Shot At By Paintball Gun Filled With Marbles

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  1. Harry Tuttle

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    Man Shot At By Paintball Gun Filled With Marbles

    Alleged Suspect Returns To Scene, Threatens Victim
    http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/3789261/detail.html?subid=22100764&qs=1;bp=t
    POSTED: 6:25 PM EDT October 6, 2004

    LINTHICUM, Md. -- Attacked with marbles from a paintball gun, a Glen Burnie, Md., man returned to the crime scene Wednesday with WBAL-TV 11 News reporter Rob Roblin -- only to be attacked again.

    Raymond Watts called 11 News following, what he called, a horrifying attack. And when one of WBAL-TV 11's crews arrived at the scene, they quickly became part of the story.

    Video: Rob Roblin Reports: Unidentified Teen Shouts Expletives At Paintball-Shooting Victim
    Slideshow: Teen Lashes Out At Paintball Shooting Victim

    When Watts and Roblin returned to the scene of the shooting, a teenager who refused to identify himself yelled countless obscenities at Watts and Roblin, invoking a heated verbal fight. Watts said that unidentified teenager (pictured, right) was involved in the shooting.

    "That's why you got done the way you did!" the teen said. "Turn these cameras off."

    "You said last night, 'The reason we shot your car is because we thought you were one of the enemies coming over here to shoot us,' " Watts said to the teen.

    When asked about the shooting, the teen said: "I don't know what you're talking about. Once these cameras go off, it's me and you baby, it's your turn. You thought last night was fun? Today will be a whole new picnic."

    Around 3 a.m. Wednesday, Watts said his car was shot at. He described what he felt at the time.

    "It sounded like a real gun. All I did was duck. And when you look at the car, it looks like real bullet holes through the windows, I didn't know what to expect," Watts said.

    Anne Arundel County police told 11 News officers responded to the scene where they arrested and charged a 16-year-old with reckless endangerment and destruction of property. The teen -- who police said admitted to shooting at the vehicle using a paintball gun -- has since been released to the custody of his parents.

    "The paintballs are popular with the kids today because of the competition that it involves. Unfortunately, they've taken it to another level and used it as a weapons, which we don't have an experience with -- paintballs used as a weapon. This is the first," Anne Arundel County Police Lt. Edward Bergin said.

    Police recovered two paintball guns at the scene, one of which was loaded with marbles, Roblin reported.
     
  2. nico

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    great, now the beurocrats will want my real guns AND my paintball gun. It's too bad the victim didn't have CCW. Maybe the kid would have acted differently if he thought there was a potential for the man fighting back.
     
  3. Sunray

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    I think I missed something. Paint ball guns are CO2 powdered unless I'm very confused. Marbles are glass or plastic. The paint ball guns I saw when they were new were just modified Crossman CO2 guns. Told the guy that the sights were crap. Can a paintball gun even launch a marble?
     
  4. cracked butt

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    Paintguns shoot a dye filled ball that is the size of a large marble, with considerable force.

    IIRC some police departments are trying out paintbal markers shooting balls filled with a pepper agent and/or solid glass marbles as less-than-lethal weapons.
     
  5. Harry Tuttle

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    PB markers are 68 caliber and fire a paintball at ~300 fps

    mine will do 15 rounds a second
     
  6. Bigjake

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    harry is correct. High preformance paint hoses rock. it wouldnt be all that hard to get a little 30 buck POS from wally world and load it up with marbles. it would pry tear the crap outa the gun though
     
  7. nico

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    some paintball guns are CO2 powered, but most of them use compressed air now. Like Harry said, they shoot a .68 caliber ball that feels kinda like soft plastic on the outside and is a gel on the inside. .68" would be a very big marble and I'd think the gun might have trouble shooting a piece of glass that size anyway since it'd be significantly heavier than a paintball. It seems kinda far fetched that a paintball gun could be used to fire a single marble, let alone several in succession.
     
  8. IMtheNRA

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    Hello Harry, what is a "PB marker"?
     
  9. 9mmepiphany

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    PB marker is the original designation for what we now refer to as paintball guns

    they were designed to mark livestock out of a herd
     
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    Yes, a paintball gun can launch a marble. My local PD uses one to shoot OC powder balls, and they also have special balls made of glass and other hard material for breaking windows, etc.

    So, he says he doesn't know anything about the attack and then he directly references said attack in his next sentence in a first-person sense. Smart one. :rolleyes:
     
  11. buttrap

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    Last I knew there was no law against pulling out a 9mm a drilling the little jerks if they shoot at you...............
     
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    Also, paintball guns are adjustable. You can turn up the amount of airflow. My cousin (Grizzly, of Gramps and Grizzly Paintball) once demonstrated putting paintballs through 3/8ths inch plywood at about 900 fps. Admittedly, most of the paintballs broke in the barrel, but the ones that didn't punched a hole through the wood. I imagine you could throw marbles fast enough to sting well.

    -Ogre
     
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    Well, when yer just 16 sometimes yer brain ain't work'n jus' right!! DUH!!
     
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    This is my old stomping grounds and not far from where Spot77 lives now.

    Those little $%^&s better watch out who they are shooting those things at or they are going to get an education in the differences between PB markers and real firearms.
     
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    This is what you get when kids are't 'properly' taught about respect and responsibility.
     
  16. Ed Ely

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    First hand observation only yesterday, happened to be at the Creek
    with my son-in-law enjoying the hell out of the show. What I saw in
    the vendors booths scared the sh*t out of me. Many, many paintball
    vendors. Guys these PB guns can cause serious damage, and all the
    teeners who could afford them were running around showing them off.

    I saw one demo of full auto PB and those suckers ripped. And guess
    what, one of the vendors had some marbles which he used to show
    "the real kick a*s potential" of the PB. Fellow forum members, the first
    thought out of my pea brain was and I turned to my SIL and said "
    well the anti's are sure going to have a field day with this new legal
    automated weapon".

    I am so sad to hear that my words have come true to soon. Guys,
    these type of weapons, they surely are not toys, and when used
    by evil doer's as described in the above post, we gunners are in deep
    doo. The anti's prayers have been answered.
     
  17. gundam007

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    I had an experience with a moron with a paintball marker (paintballers prefer to call them markers so some people dont think they go around shooting eachother with real guns) before. The idiot didnt chrono it at the field, and was shooting about 400 fps. I am sure of this because when we were playing airball (paintball with inflatable cover), his hits were way louder than any other persons. I got hit in the arm which developed into a rather nasty welt. After the game, I just went up to him, and started yelling at him, to which he said he didnt know it was so fast. The kid was like 10 and I can bet he either just got the marker from mommy and daddy, or he liked to shoot peoples' property with it. SHEESH, when will people learn to use projectile launchers responsibly?
    P.S. Paintball markers are not weapons. When used responsibly and with safety equipment, no players will be harmed. The worst that will happen is a small welt and some stinging. When an idiot gets behind one is when stuff happens.
     
  18. Harry Tuttle

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    one of the noobie problems with markers is that CO2 runs at a higher pressure as the ambient temp goes up

    when the tanks are filled they can frost over

    leave that tank in the sun and it will expand and vent the burst disk

    a CO2 marker chronographed in the morning can easily be hot an hour later
     
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    I sure hope they up the charges. At the very least add a charge of assault, although I believe a decent prosecuter could get attempted murder to stick.
     
  20. armoredman

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    We use a pepperball gun, and it works well when used.
    I have a friend who ran steelies through his paintball gun, and said it was inaccurate, but devastating. If shot at by one of these things, I am going to assume whoever is using a suppressed friearm. Unfortunately, here are the headlines...
    1) He wins
    "Tragic accident involving youngster and toy leaves one dead."
    2) I win
    " Youth dies, slain by gun weilding thug, attacking him for his toy."
     
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    Any violent crime not involving a firearm only demonstrates the silliness of regulating firearms more harshly than other weapons, even if the weapon is just a toy.
     
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    The messed up thing about this is that I bet if the teen had encountered someone who had the means to defend themself, the person defending themself would've been charged with something while the teen would've played innocent in court.
     
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    When used responsibly and with safety equipment, no players will be harmed.
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    Same applies to firearms.
    str1
     
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    Just great.

    I have a paintball field on private land in LINTHICUM, right where this crap happened.

    We've been playnig there for 6 years now....every other Sunday throughout the winter....and not once have we been bothered.

    And to think.....10 to 16 grown men all wearing camo carrying what must look like an arsenal to passers-by
     
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    I think I've just spotted the problem.
     
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