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Mexican Carry Strikes Again

Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by Jeff White, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Blkhrt13

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    A few times I have tucked a gun in a pocket. But I'm not for putting my gun in there with my other gun.
     
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  3. strambo

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    Well...not the problem of the gun being un-secure and falling down your pants. :what:
     
  4. murf

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    i would not consider this a problem, rather a logistical challenge.

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  5. bnolsen

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    I think they have medications and treatments for that kind of problem nowadays.
     
  6. Ironicaintit

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    I've done it. Not long....going from the car to the house, or vice versa, when I have an extra pistol to tote at the time. Not "carrying" really, just transporting.
     
  7. HB

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    This store is less than a mile from me. I'm glad I was not there when it happened. This is the problem with freedom... stupid people misuse it.

    Missouri now has permitless carry but I'd be fine with a holster requirement.

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    "...right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    And that includes some bureaucrat infringing on my rights by telling me I've got to have a holster and can't just drop my pistol down my drawers and let it rumble around with the rest of my junk. No government pencil-pusher is going to tell me that I can't enjoy the sensation of finely blued steel caressing my private parts. That long-haired Beatle George Harrison got at least on thing right when he sang, "Happiness is a Warm Gun", but it's all the moreso when its tucked into your skivies. ;)
     
  9. BSA1

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    The biggest problem with freedom is the citizens do not use it. They prefer to have decisions made by large, faceless government with no accountability. They are willing to give up their rights in the interests of "safety".

    The n.g. the O.P. described has nothing to do with not carrying the gun in a holster. The gun discharged when he tried to grab it as it was falling.

    Which means you are ok with complying with Government regulations mandating what kind of material the holster must be made of, the type and thickness of the leather, the type of material for nylon holsters, the type and strength of the stitching, type of retention devices (yes, plural since one retention device can fail), types of methods to attach the holster to your pants, whether over the belt, inside the belt, crossdraw, behind the back, appendix meet their safety standards, exposed or covered trigger guards, and standards for how much resistance the holster must have before failing when being pulled on by another person. Except the Government will not use another person. They will use a robot set to pull a higher strength than most humans have.

    Since this will drive most holster makers out of business due to the expense of manufacturing and submitting holsters for testing to meet Government regulations your choices will become fewer. In addition the manufacturers will have to raise the price of the holsters to cover the expenses of meeting Government standards.

    Then of course the Government at any time can simply change it's standards.

    Come to think of it. That is exactly what California is doing with semi-automatic handguns isn't it.
     
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    Yup, let's have the government regulate how every lawful citizen carries a firearm because once per decade a moron has an ND by carrying w/o a holster. Totally makes sense.

    Only, how do we ensure compliance? :uhoh:

    Like any law, it can only be used after the fact as a tool to charge someone with violation. We can already charge this idiot with violation of laws on the books for his negligent act (reckless discharge of a firearm in public).
     
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    Exactly, that's how I want it to happen to the T. Thank god the govt didn't create laws requiring headlights at night on public road ways. We also need to waive the liscemse requirements for Doctors.

    I understand the mentality where we can't give an inch... But this utopian society is very different than reality.

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    So you are equating lights on cars (where auto accidents kill tens of thousands each year and would go through the roof with cars sans headlights) with regulation of a statistical non-issue? How about we also pass a law about keeping shoes tied, I bet more people trip over loose shoe laces resulting in injury than holster-less carry.

    Once again, there are plenty of laws covering this already. I bet a cop or local DA can find at least 3 different things to charge him with.

    P.S. I routinely see people driving with their lights off well past when the law says they should have them on...
     
  13. JO JO

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    I'm with you "give no quarter" give up not an inch of our rights or they will take a foot if we agree
     
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    Which one or both do you "want to happen to the T"?

    Creation of Government regulations, agency and hiring of Government employees to set safety standards for firearm holsters, licensing requirements and civil and criminal penalties for non-compliance...

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    the adoption of the regulations of firearms that is being done in California?
     
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    More government regulation/control is never the answer no matter what the question.
     
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    Criminals do Mexican Carry because it is harder to ditch a gun and holster while running to avoid arrest than it is to ditch the gun -- also, a holster shows intent.

    If you happen to get caught with a gun in your belt, the fall back story is you found it in a trash can and were carrying it to the police station for proper disposal. It's a lot harder to explain why you have a gun in a holster molded to your make and model.
     
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    Yes, this is exactly why criminals will never use holsters. Also, they aren't typically "strapped" all the time. Silly to go away for 5-10 years because you get caught with a gun while doing some mundane activity. They strap up to do bad things, then stash the gun 'til next time.

    Yet another reason why the notion they would use sound suppressors if easier to get is also absurd. Now, they have to deal with a can as long as the gun in addition to the gun? All so it isn't noisy when the last thing that draws attention in the hood is a gunshot? Don't think so.
     
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    Where have you been?

    At first, it was required that someone walk in front to the car swinging a lantern.

    And then headlights. And then, sealed beam headlights.

    Or were you joking?
     
  19. Jeff White

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    There is no indication that the person who dropped his weapon in the store was a criminal. Just an everyday person taking advantage of Missouri's constitutional carry law.
     
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    "Or were you joking?"

    I was joking. If the guy had a holster he likely would have never had to fumble for the gun and recklessly fired it. Regardless of the laws involved, it was very lucky that nobody was seriously hurt or killed.

    HB
     
  21. Sunray

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    That has nothing whatever to do with Mexico. Hollywood, U.S.A. causes that stupidity.
     

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