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Mexican Flag Burned in Arizona

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Erebus, Mar 31, 2006.

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  1. Erebus

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    Way to go kids. They raise it above Old Glory, you burn it!!
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    Immigration tensions spark flag-burning in A.J.

    By Blake Herzog, Tribune

    March 31, 2006

    This week’s tensions over immigration reform literally caught fire in the East Valley on Thursday when students raised a Mexican flag over Apache Junction High School — and then other students yanked it down and burned it.

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/62231.html
     
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  2. Tomcat1066

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    And people question the values of today's youth ;)

    I know I don't now :D

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  3. Biker

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    There is hope for today's youth.
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  4. Malice

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    I go to school at the University of Texas in San Antonio.

    In the middle of campus there is a statue of a man carrying another man on his back.

    Is it a memorial to Soldier/Airman Gi-Joe who carried his wounded comrade to safety? After all, we have like 3 or 4 military bases in the area and about %10 of the students you see on a daily basis are in BDUs or AF Blues.

    Hell no.

    They are wearing "Mexican" clothing, wading through a river, and the name of the statue is boldly stated:

    "Border Crossing"

    We're screwed.
     
  5. ElTacoGrande

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    This (being happy about burning Mexico's flag) is sad to see, and it is sad for me to see posts like this here.
     
  6. Nitrogen

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    If you expect other people to respect our flag, and everything it stands for, we should respect other nation's flags.

    Romans 12:19:
    Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord.

    Matthew 7:12:
    So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

    It scares me how much New Testamant I know, being Jewish.
     
  7. Biker

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    I don't know much about the Bible, but the Book of Biker says:

    "Two eyes for an eye, two teefus fo' a toof".

    From the Book of Biker
    Knit 1, Purl 2...

    Biker
     
  8. Rich K

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    Amen, Biker. Amen. Thus endeth the sermon for today.:D
     
  9. Thefabulousfink

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    Is that why I see so many toothless bikers riding around:neener:

    I shouldn't kid, I am on my way to becoming a biker myself. In fact, if it wasn't raining so hard today I would be moving my bike to my new place (it's only a block away, but the 30mi detour wouldn't be any fun in the rain:( )
     
  10. TexasRifleman

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    Why? In this nation you fly the US flag, in other nations you fly their flags.

    I sail, and it is customary to hoist the host nations flag when you visit another port, but you do not fly that flag when you enter US waters, you fly a US flag, even if your vessel is not of US registry. It a sign of respect.

    The US flag should fly here, no other. It has nothing to do with respect of another nations customs or heritage, it is a sign of respect that you fly no flag here except Old Glory. Any attempt to fly another nations flag in the US should be met with exactly this kind of response. That offending flag should be taken down. Granted burning it might be a bit much, but the Supremes have said it's OK to burn Old Glory, so there's hardly a legal issue burning someone elses.

    You want to fly the Mexican flag, I-20 goes straight to El Paso and you're a short walk to Juarez, or you can take 77 south and it goes straight to Matamoros.

    Why does it make you sad? Again, removing an offensive flag flying in the US is hardly a slam on anyone's heritage. This is the United States, only one flag flies here.
     
  11. dasmi

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    Works for me.
     
  12. StopTheGrays

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    In the name of Free Speech and all that couldn't someone plant a sign in front of the statue that said:

    MEXICO
    --------->

    and have the arrow on the sign point in the direction they going? If anything, maybe the illegals will get the hint.
     
  13. ElTacoGrande

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    Certainly it's legal. Certainly it's legitimate free expression.

    What upsets me is not just that burning the flag shows lack of respect for our neighbors to the south. What upsets me is that it makes me feel that they are trying to express their hatred of not just illegal immigrants, but of Mexico itself. Maybe hatred not just of Mexico but of Mexicans. And that upsets me.

    They would be called KKK or Nazis or whatever if they were burning efigees of Mexicans, so they can't do that, but I get the same feeling from it.

    Of course that's just me; maybe they love Mexico and Mexicans and are delighted to have legal Mexican immigrants, and all they are doing by burning the Mexican flag is just expressing legimate concern about illegal aliens. Could be!

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  14. dasmi

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    Prehaps they should be burning images of our governmental officials instead?
     
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    FabulousFink...

    That would be *toofless*.:neener:
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  16. TexasRifleman

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    You seem to forget how that flag came to be burned in the first place. It's not like it was sitting there and someone decided to torch it.

    Why the apologist for it being flown in place of the US flag? Don't take the issue on a detour.
    It's OK to tear down the "white guys" flag but not the "minorities" flag? Is that what you are trying to say? I thought we were all one nation here.....

    The US flag was torn down to make way for the Mexican flag.

    That's not right, and should not be tolerated, not a Mexican flag, not any other nations flag. What happens to the offending flag after it's torn down matters not one bit.

    And don't talk about respect. If these folks had any respect for the US then Old Glory would not have been removed in the first place.

    Exercise your free speech in Arizona, but don't be surprised if another group exercises theirs too......
    It's a 2 way street when you decide to protest something. Be damned sure you know what and why you are protesting.
     
  17. ball3006

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    I would burn a mexican flag...

    but I am too cheap to buy one. I have no respect for mexico or mexicans as they have not EARNED MY RESPECT. All they do is break our laws coming here and all mexico wants is our money and right to do business here as they see fit. I am not like alot of folks and give someone respect just for the sake of it. Respect is EARNED, not awarded....chris3
     
  18. Sindawe

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    Whussy. Try 300 miles in the rain, with a few funnel clouds at the end to liven things up. :neener:
    When our "honorable" neighbors to the south begin to show some respect for our borders, our laws and our national sovereignty then we can talk.

    When their nationals here illegally and our citizen supporters/apologists demonstrate/march/ditch school/block traffic, demanding treatment equal to that of our citizens while waving the flag of a foreign nation, they'll get ZERO respect from me.
     
  19. Manedwolf

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    But then, it seems like the overwhelming majority of most societies today are wholly ignorant of such arcane subjects as "respect" and "tradition".
     
  20. STAGE 2

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    Good for them!!!!

    This will be a great opportunity to see whether the pukes that advocate flag burning actually believe what they say or are just anti-american scum using that issue as a cloak.

    Of course they won't support this behavior as they will claim it is "racist" because of the hypocrites they are.

    As for being pissed off at mexicans, its totally justifiable. I don't have specific figures, but from everything thats been thrown around on TV over the last couple days at least half of all illegal aliens are mexican.

    Add that to the fact that they have taken to the streets en masse with signs that state "this is our land" or "viva la raza" and alike and you have a completely justifiable reason for any feelings of animosity towards mexico and its people.
     
  21. Manedwolf

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    They burned it because it had been hoisted above the flag OF this land in a disgrace to the American flag. You don't do that.

    They didn't go just get a flag and burn it. It was a response to a national insult on a flagpole.

    The basic question I have for people who would run up that other flag...do they consider themselves Americans...or Mexicans?

    You can be one or the other. You can have a society absorb people of all nations. But unless they declare their national identity TO BE America, if they insist on declaring themselves residents of their former country... you don't have a nation. You have a big fractured refugee camp, not a country.
     
  22. Hawkmoon

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    Put it in context, El T. The Mexican flag that was burned had just been raised ABOVE an American flag, on American soil, demonstrating disrespect for the American flag and possibly hatred of Americans. Mayhap the burning of this flag was expressing just a dislike of people who desecrate the American flag.

    I might go so far as to venture the suggestion that if people of Mexican extraction don't like seeing thier flag burned, they should consider NOT RAISING IT ABOVE THE AMERICAN FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. :banghead:
     
  23. longeyes

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    feel the love

    I think it's good that our illegal immigrant friends are venting. Everyone should see exactly what their real feelings are. Nothing better for rousing the opposition we need to deal with this problem. Thank you one and all.
     
  24. Erebus

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    Ever read "8 Steps To Destroy America"? We are well on our way to becoming just another failed country.

    http://www.rense.com/general62/destroy.htm

    Those kids burned that flag because someone had the audacity to disrespect THIS country by removing OUR flag and replacing it with antoher country's flag.

    No matter where that flag was from it should have been removed and burned.
     
  25. boofus

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    Burning the mexican flag is just as constitutional as burning the American flag. Turn about is fair play.

    I expect the stars-and-stripes burning commies at the ACLU to start protesting this flag burning however. They are two-faced hypocrites of the worst kind.
     
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