Mexican Flag Burned in Arizona

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I think it's good that our illegal immigrant friends are venting. Everyone should see exactly what their real feelings are. Nothing better for rousing the opposition we need to deal with this problem. Thank you one and all.

Although I don't like to see it I certainly agree. These protesters may have awoken the sleeping giant. People definately need to see what inaction does.
 
The flag of one nation is raised over foriegn ground as a sign that it has been taken in war. Raising the flag of Mexico on our soil is, at the very least, a firm statement opposing US sovreignity at that school. If people of Mexican heritage want to display the flag of their old country in their home as a sign of pride, more power to them. If they fly it on a pole however, then they are in effect declaring the ground around it as Mexican soil. Dropping Old Glory and raising the flag of any other nation is, IMO, a declaration of war. The kids that did that are, I am sure, not officers of the Mexican government nor authorized to declare war for that nation, but they definitely need to be taught exactly what it is that they did - preferably in no uncertain terms by some of those great Americans who have taken an oath to defend this country.
 
US flag goes on top. If anyone does otherwise, then I have NO problem for an appropriate reaction, such as burning.

And for the record, I support people's right to burn a flag. I don't agree with it, but if I want the right to protest, I have to support others right to protest. And that includes burning Mexico's flag!

BURN BABY BURN!!!!:evil:

Tom
 
no no, wrong order

first, you whiz on the mexican flag, THEN you burn it hehe

In all seriousness, we need to close the borders, drive out the illegals and take the country back. By force, if necessary.
 
ElTaco Grande; the issue here is not that it is a Mexican Flag - it is that a FOREIGN Flag was raised on USA soil! I would torch that flag if it was Canadian, German, British, etc. ... raising that flag was a sign of disrespect and it was a sign of war whoever raised it was saying this is Mexico or should be Mexico and that is just WRONG!

I like Mexico and Mexicans and other Latino's but if they want to take over the USA and fly the Mexican flag it will be at their funerals.
 
Quote from ElTacoGrande:

"What upsets me is that it makes me feel that they are trying to express their hatred of not just illegal immigrants, but of Mexico itself. Maybe hatred not just of Mexico but of Mexicans. And that upsets me.

Dear ElTacoGrande:

Don't be upset. Those guys don't hate Mexico or Mexicans. What it is, is frustration that they were being accused of racism simply because they had wanted U.S. law upheld.

Then the saw the "Reconquistadores" groups associated with "La Raza" starting to encourage protesters to wear shirts and carry banners with "Plan of San Diego" emblazoned on them while burning the United States flag and it finally depleted their patience.

(The Plan advocated the killing of all Anglo males over the age of sixteen and the overthrow of our government)

But these guys don't hate Mexicans any more than me, and I have been married to my wife for over twenty years; she's Hispanic and I have two kids that are half Irish and half Hispanic. So I don't believe they could lable me Anti-Mexican. (Well I guess someone could, but they would be kind of mistaken)

Anyway, I got upset too when I saw kids walking out of the class rooms I pay for, burning the flag on the school flag pole I pay for, and claiming racism (of all things) while wearing shirts that advocate killing people because they are Non-Hispanic.

So please don't think these guys are racists just because they felt good that the Mexico flag was burned. It is simply frustration.

The folks protesting don't have any idea how badly they are hurting their own cause by taking their frustration out on people that don't have anyting to do with their income or social standing.

If they want to protest thir conditions, Vicente Fox would be the character they need to talk with.

Mexico's President's have been keeping "La Raza" in poverty since Augustine Iturbide first took over. These protesters insulting the only people who have been shown to be willing to help them, are shooting themselves in their own feet. And they won't garner much support wearing "Plan of San Diego" shirts, that's for sure.

One guy suggested since the "Plan" was first discovered a long time ago, that it is insignificant or would be hard to implement. But advocating something like shooting sixteen year old boys just because they are Anglos is kind of insensitive even if the plan was "hatched" long ago in our history.

(Especially when they are supposedly marching against "intolerance" )
 
One-upmanship regarding in which order one ought to desecrate a flag is not the high road.

That is all.
 
Free speech isn't a one way road, this was a very justified form of expression to me.
 
My point being: if you get upset when people burn your flag, don't burn theirs.
Simple as that.

I support the right of any rectum-opening to burn the American Flag, the Mexican flag, or my favorite, the Gadsden flag.

I'm also not a hipocrite. I won't burn another nation's flag if I get upset about people burning my nation's flag. I'm not sure of Mexico's rules of respect reguarding their flag, so I'll just use the ones I know; mine. I won't burn a Mexican flag unless it's in such severe disrepair as to not be flyable.
Not that I'd fly a Mexican flag, anyway.

I look at my behavior and feel it should be an example to others. I wish more people would do the same. I feel it's "The High Road" to take, so to speak.
 
"Por La Raza Todo, Fuera de La Raza Nada"

How dare anyone demand that american citizens tolerate
this hatred coming from the south?

Mexico defends its southern borders from illegal immigrants, WITH THEIR ARMY!
Why is it so unfair that we expect our borders and laws to be respected?

Come legally as a friend, and I welcome you with warm regard.
Come as a criminal, hostile, invading horde and you deserve to be repelled
with force and violence.

Don't tear down my flag, IN MY COUNTRY, and I won't burn yours.


--Travis--
 
You can be one or the other. You can have a society absorb people of all nations. But unless they declare their national identity TO BE America, if they insist on declaring themselves residents of their former country... you don't have a nation. You have a big fractured refugee camp, not a country.

Well put: we HAVE become one big refugee camp in many ways.

And when we're not that we seem to be a gigantic international shopping mall.

Not a nation.

That has to change.

Thanks, Mexico, for waking us up.
 
The sad thing is that these are just stupid kids that don't know the consequences of their actions...

Burn my flag, if you are an "illegal" what right do you have to do that on American soil. Go home please before you find out what Americans really think of you...

C
 
As an American, as a citizen of the best, most powerful nation on Earth, there is lots of hatred directed at my country.

As far as the hatred coming from the south, let them proclaim their hatred for America. I wonder why they want to live here so badly. Do they want to invade, and bring their crappy government with them?

As a citizen of the best, most powerful nation on Earth, I also realise that hatred is never countered with hatred. You'll never stop the gun-grabbers by hating them.
You'll never stop Illegal Aliens by hating them, or being angry.

Hate is a very ugly emotion.

Being a Jew, knowing that less than 100 years ago, MY ancestors were blamed for a nations downfall makes me very sensitive to matters like this.

Ask yourself: Where will you let your hatred and anger take you?

Now i'm not trying to say we should let Illegal Aliens into this country unchecked. We need to fortify our borders and keep people from Illegally entering this country. I'm also of the mind that we should be sending people that are here illegally back. We should be severely punishing any company that hires someone here illegaly.

Watch the hatred, and watch the anger, though. It's led plenty of people down dark roads.
 
longeyes said:
Well put: we HAVE become one big refugee camp in many ways.

And when we're not that we seem to be a gigantic international shopping mall.

Not a nation.

That has to change.

Thanks, Mexico, for waking us up.

"When you come to the melting pot, it is not too much to ask that you melt a little."
 
A question:
If Mexico is so great, and these people want to fly the Mexican flag.... why the hell don't they go to, or STAY IN, Mexico???

It makes no sense.... go to a whole new country, 'cause you didn't like the one you left, I presume.... only to start flying that other country's flag?

Ah well... just goes to show how screwed-up some people's thinking is, I suppose...

Anyway... let me know when they start burning MEXICANS in Arizona... That'll be news-worthy.


J.C.
 
Hate is a very ugly emotion.

Agree, however I think what is communicated here is anger not hate. I've lived in the Southwest 30 years and I witness far less discrimination from the angelo side now then I did in the past however what I see now is anger directed toward
America from incoming immigrants,(illegal).

I hope what is happening is that people become aware of what our leaders are doing to this country. The immigration issue is one of the most significant this country will face in coming years. Please write/call your representatives make
them aware of your thoughts on this subject, at this juncture not sure they are listening and if that continues a third party will look increasing good.
 
Being a Jew, knowing that less than 100 years ago, MY ancestors were blamed for a nations downfall makes me very sensitive to matters like this.

Ask yourself: Where will you let your hatred and anger take you?

Good advice indeed.

What gets me is that people fall for the same propaganda over and over...the only thing that changes is the name of the object group. The accusations, methods, and justifications are all the same.
 
A question:
If Mexico is so great, and these people want to fly the Mexican flag.... why the hell don't they go to, or STAY IN, Mexico???

It makes no sense.... go to a whole new country, 'cause you didn't like the one you left, I presume.... only to start flying that other country's flag?

The answer: colonization.

They are recolonizing lands they claim as their own. It's called irredentism.
 
We here in my neck of the woods have one of the fastest growing Mexican populations in the country. My problem with this new nationality is two fold, #1 they are rude people and # 2 they can't drive, a older gentleman at the local Wal-Mart had this to say about their driving, Them folks couldn't drive a sharp stick up a hogs a**. That about sums it up in my opinion.

The burning of the Mexican flag was only the beginning from a country who will only tolorate so much BS from any invaders.
 
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