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Mexican Police chief wants citizen's to have easier access to firearms...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by mgregg85, May 31, 2011.

  1. mgregg85

    mgregg85 Senior Member

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    I think this is a news story that we really need to spread. After 7 people died in drug related attacks in Acapulco, the Guerrero state police chief, Ramon Almonte, wants Mexican citizens to have easier access to firearms for self defense...
     
  2. Red Cent

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    They are going to need a new police chief very soon.
     
  3. mgregg85

    mgregg85 Senior Member

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  4. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Senior Member

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    ATBackPackin Senior Member

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    It is nice to know that someone finally gets it.
     
  6. rocinante

    rocinante Senior Member

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    Yeah he won't last long speaking such a simple truth.
     
  7. KodiakBeer

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    Simple, elegant, sensible...
     
  8. semperfi63

    semperfi63 New Member

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    between the BATFE and the State Dept, I thought firearms were easy to get in Mexico :)
     
  9. Vyacheslav

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    they are if you're going to run across the border and shoot some gringos
     
  10. Caliper_Mi

    Caliper_Mi Senior Member

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    Easy to get INTO Mexico, and only if bought as a straw purchase...

    I betcha you will get all kinds of hassled or arrested trying to take a legally purchased firearm to Mexico for self defense. :banghead:
     
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    This police chief is thinking, the problem unfortunately is, thinking does not buy votes, fear does.
     
  12. JerryM

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    Since the cartels use full auto weapons, what would the citizenry use?

    A few citizens armed with 1911s would not stand a chance in a fight.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  13. KodiakBeer

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    As opposed to a few citizens armed with pinata bats? I think I'd take my chances with a handgun or shotgun or whatever firearm I could get vs no firearm.
     
  14. AlexanderA

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    Mexico is the poster child for the failure of gun control.
     
  15. rooter

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    Obviously those nice cartel folks aren't aware of the restrictions on firearms. Once posted, I'm certain they'll adhere to the rules and everything will be fine.
     
  16. Zoogster

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    He makes sense. The small number of bad guys can run around even with just a couple armed individuals and get things done because they are running around in a defenseless environment.



    Of course there is more to the problem. Civilian trials for killing bad guys would be quite dangerous for the civilians.
    I am reminded of the fallen mexican marines whose names were released after they died in gun battles with a cartel.
    The result is the cartel went and killed the family members of each fallen soldier whose name was released.

    Any time a soldier is given credit for taking part in an operation, or honored for their sacrifice the cartels research them and go after their families if they can be reached.
    It would be the same for civilians who had to answer to the police for killing cartel members and so whose names became easily available to the cartels.

    Imagine if every time a US soldier died someplace like Afghanistan and was mentioned in public record, or in the media, or a funeral that mentioned their name was held, the enemy hunted down their family members in the US and killed them.
    That is what they deal with in Mexico.
     
  17. semperfi63

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    right because life is like a video game, so since automatic weapons are deemed "more powerful" any encounter between an individual with an automatic weapon and an individual with a semi automatic or bolt action weapon will result in the death of the individual with the non automatic weapon. Hey that whole Sergeant York thing was myth
     
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    of course one wonders how quickly those cartels might second guess their actions if they knew they might be the last ones they make.
     
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    The people installed to rule them are few also. How long have they been held hostage by their government?
     
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    If I had to be there I would want a SD gun, however, it is like trying to defend yourself against the Mafia. Notice that the police sometimes flee to the US and others get beheaded.

    Jerry
     
  21. Guns and more

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    That shouldn't be a problem. When is the ATF walking the next batch across the border?
     
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    If a few fight back succesfully it can inspire the masses. The drug cartels are totally out of hand, desperate times.
     
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    Edward Abbey once said that we should give every Mexican we sent back a rifle and a case of ammo.

    He had a point.
     
  24. Carl N. Brown

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    Some points for consideration.

    One, most of the cartels' heavy weapons come from military arsenals in Central America, and the largest number overall are US government guns supplied to the Mexican, Central American and South American governments for their military/police.

    Second, Mexico is the poster child for more of the same failed gun control policies. To the Sarah Brady and Rebecca Peters crowd, it is not that Mexican style gun control has failed (only one legal gun store in Mexico City run by the Army with paperwork up to here (hand over head)) but that the US does not have Mexican style gun control.

    Third, is that American businessmen have reported for years that Mexican civilians who can afford a black market gun, get one in spite of the laws (or I suspect because of them). I am talking Mexicans who are middleclass professionals, in private, joke about giving full auto guns as house warming gifts: you have a new home, here protect it with this. (Kidnapping of people who look like they can pay ransom is big in Mexico.)

    The police chief is talking about legalizing what is going on under the table for the lawabiding, because the gun laws are definitely not disarming the bad guys.
     
  25. BADUNAME37

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    If every Mexican citizen were given M16's and taught how to use them, we might see some balance in the bad guys vs. the good guys. As it is now, most of the good guys are just sitting ducks.
     

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