Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by mgregg85, May 31, 2011.
link to story
From Associated Press posted by CBS News "7 killed in attacks in Mexican resort of Acapulco", Associated Press (AP), May 31, 2011
It is nice to know that someone finally gets it.
Simple, elegant, sensible...
Easy to get INTO Mexico, and only if bought as a straw purchase...
I betcha you will get all kinds of hassled or arrested trying to take a legally purchased firearm to Mexico for self defense. :banghead:
A few citizens armed with 1911s would not stand a chance in a fight.
As opposed to a few citizens armed with pinata bats? I think I'd take my chances with a handgun or shotgun or whatever firearm I could get vs no firearm.
Of course there is more to the problem. Civilian trials for killing bad guys would be quite dangerous for the civilians.
I am reminded of the fallen mexican marines whose names were released after they died in gun battles with a cartel.
The result is the cartel went and killed the family members of each fallen soldier whose name was released.
Any time a soldier is given credit for taking part in an operation, or honored for their sacrifice the cartels research them and go after their families if they can be reached.
It would be the same for civilians who had to answer to the police for killing cartel members and so whose names became easily available to the cartels.
Imagine if every time a US soldier died someplace like Afghanistan and was mentioned in public record, or in the media, or a funeral that mentioned their name was held, the enemy hunted down their family members in the US and killed them.
That is what they deal with in Mexico.
right because life is like a video game, so since automatic weapons are deemed "more powerful" any encounter between an individual with an automatic weapon and an individual with a semi automatic or bolt action weapon will result in the death of the individual with the non automatic weapon. Hey that whole Sergeant York thing was myth
of course one wonders how quickly those cartels might second guess their actions if they knew they might be the last ones they make.
That shouldn't be a problem. When is the ATF walking the next batch across the border?
He had a point.
One, most of the cartels' heavy weapons come from military arsenals in Central America, and the largest number overall are US government guns supplied to the Mexican, Central American and South American governments for their military/police.
Second, Mexico is the poster child for more of the same failed gun control policies. To the Sarah Brady and Rebecca Peters crowd, it is not that Mexican style gun control has failed (only one legal gun store in Mexico City run by the Army with paperwork up to here (hand over head)) but that the US does not have Mexican style gun control.
Third, is that American businessmen have reported for years that Mexican civilians who can afford a black market gun, get one in spite of the laws (or I suspect because of them). I am talking Mexicans who are middleclass professionals, in private, joke about giving full auto guns as house warming gifts: you have a new home, here protect it with this. (Kidnapping of people who look like they can pay ransom is big in Mexico.)
The police chief is talking about legalizing what is going on under the table for the lawabiding, because the gun laws are definitely not disarming the bad guys.
Separate names with a comma.