MIL or MOA? Why? DATA, not a DEBATE!

What reticle style do you prefer?

  • MOA-Based

    Votes: 14 26.4%
  • MIL-Based

    Votes: 16 30.2%
  • I use both MOA and MIL

    Votes: 12 22.6%
  • Don't clutter my view; basic crosshairs are all I need.

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Total voters
    53
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I use to not like the BDC reticules because I like weird cartridges that never match up to the supposed ranges of the BDC hold over hashes. But with Strelok, as long as the particular scope's BDC reticule is in the apps database, I can make it work with any cartridge/load I want. I get everything setup in Strelok and then print out the reticule image with the new ranges for the hold over hashmarks and glue that into the rear scope cap. Works great, quick, and easy. I have done it for my 450 Bushmaster on a Vortex Viper HS, 30 RAR on a generic 3-9x40, and 300 BO subsonic with a Vorted Spitfire 3X prism.

My first NRL22 match I shot with a Tasco 3-9x32 and Strelok. I found a reticle in Strelok that match the location of where the duplex transition from thin to thick that matched my Tasco. I did not trust the turrets on the 40 years old scope to tolorare alot of dialing so I left it sighted in at 100 yards and shot the whole match using the crosshairs and that single reference point of the duplex transition for reference points. Strelok would show the me the sight picture and I would replicate it on each stage. I did lot of prep-work before the match with the publish stages. Sometimes I was shooting at the bottom edge or the top edge or holding the duplex transition at the bottom edge of the target or splitting the difference between crosshairs and duplex transition. It was far from convenient but with a bit of focus I made it work. I managed a second place finish and got a nice certificate for a generous discount on a new MIL FFP Athlon scope. :D
 
While Strelok is not perfect it will get you pretty close when using a BDC reticle. It is definitely way better than the Nikon Spot On App when I tried both with my Prostaff Rimfire 150 BDC scope. I still prefer a good MIL DOT or MOA reticle though.
 
Got a buddy who's using an older SFP 8.5-25X Leupold TMR reticle with a 1/2 mil subtension unit and an MOA turret. So we just recald his magnification to create a 2.0 MOA unit. I think it was 21X (1.7/2x25). Been awhile have to go back and ask him about it. Now he has a "MOA reticle/MOA turret" system. Honestly it's nice to know all the trig math (no doubt), but fortunately it can be simplified to simple(r) algebra for rangefinding and downrange zeroing purposes. I love playing with it in the field and have seen some amazing things accomplished with it that frankly often astounds me. One such example was using the Duplex reticle subtension to reticle-range a buck antelope while coyote hunting and were within just a few yards at two different ranges out to about 500 yds.
 
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I use to not like the BDC reticules because I like weird cartridges that never match up to the supposed ranges of the BDC hold over hashes. But with Strelok, as long as the particular scope's BDC reticule is in the apps database, I can make it work with any cartridge/load I want. I get everything setup in Strelok and then print out the reticule image with the new ranges for the hold over hashmarks and glue that into the rear scope cap. Works great, quick, and easy. I have done it for my 450 Bushmaster on a Vortex Viper HS, 30 RAR on a generic 3-9x40, and 300 BO subsonic with a Vorted Spitfire 3X prism.

My first NRL22 match I shot with a Tasco 3-9x32 and Strelok. I found a reticle in Strelok that match the location of where the duplex transition from thin to thick that matched my Tasco. I did not trust the turrets on the 40 years old scope to tolorare alot of dialing so I left it sighted in at 100 yards and shot the whole match using the crosshairs and that single reference point of the duplex transition for reference points. Strelok would show the me the sight picture and I would replicate it on each stage. I did lot of prep-work before the match with the publish stages. Sometimes I was shooting at the bottom edge or the top edge or holding the duplex transition at the bottom edge of the target or splitting the difference between crosshairs and duplex transition. It was far from convenient but with a bit of focus I made it work. I managed a second place finish and got a nice certificate for a generous discount on a new MIL FFP Athlon scope. :D

My method as well, works well and is pretty fast to use. Image is from my Nosler M48 with Leupold VX6HD 2-12X, with Nolser 130BT at 3176FPS. A little faster than the norm due to the 24" barrel, so less drop:

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I just added an extra line in the dope chart taped to my stock for the actual BDC ranges. I use the top of the indexes for my aim point. No problem staying on an 8" plate out to 500.

For my precision rigs I use MIL, mostly because the guys I shoot with all use MIL and at least 3 of us are former artillery officers, so the lingo stuck.
 
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