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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Cosmoline, Jan 20, 2008.

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  1. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Member

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    I've owned a LOT of curio rifles over the past decade, but these have floated to the top as it were. They are a 1913 Swede M96, a 1915 Swiss 1911, and a Tikkakoski 1940 M1891 Mosin. Of the three the Swiss is by far the most accurate, and will shoot true MOA with GP-11 ball. The big problem I have with it is it destroys my little orange stickers I use as a sighting guide at 100 meters! Within two or three shots they're toast and fly off the target, leaving no reference point. The M-91 is second most accurate at just under MOA with light ball and the Swede is only really good with heavy ball. But they're all sweet shooters and have excellent triggers.

    It may not be coincidence that these rifles were all produced by small nations trying to stay neutral during world wars. Two of course were never invaded, and the one that was held her own. Accuracy is underrated.

    The Swede will shortly be a gift for my Dad's 70th birthday. An old Swede for an old Swede.

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  2. lionking

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    for one I'm on the look out for a 1911 in excellent condition like yours,or as in my "steaming a stock" thread trying to find out if this is feasable for it.Is yours counterbored?Recent sightings I've found list those as.

    I just got a diopter sight for the K31,it may turn out to be great I'll let you know.I also need to get a 100yd front sight for the M96,its accurate but shoots high,unless I am low,I don't like to do that,I want a 6Oclock hold MOA.

    I also just ordered a few different brands and grains in a few calibers,I'm going to do some new testing soon also,so what is my most accurate is still in question.My Persian mauser is up there though.

    There is the fact also that some of you guys shoot better and more often than me so that also comes into play.
     
  3. Cosmoline

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    I wonder what they mean by counterbore. All the 1911's and 96/11's had a recessed crown by design as far as I know. At any rate I doubt they would have reissued a substandard barrel. I've never seen an inaccurate Swiss 1911 or 96/11.

    For accuracy and load testing ideally you should use a rest or better yet a sled to keep the rifle still and minimize human contact. I try to at least rig a rest, otherwise I'm just testing my own skill not the rifle's accuracy.
     
  4. lionking

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    my Persian mauser.


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    Very nice. That's a missing piece in my collection. I could have bought one a few years back for next to nothing, but foolishly worried about the cost of gearing up to load 8x57 again.
     
  6. lionking

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    Cosmoline,I found a nice Swiss 1911,it's in transit.Here are my K31's.:cool:


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  7. lionking

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    I like all my bolt action surplus rifles,but the 03a3 is my favorite,I plan on getting 1 or 2 more down the road.I bought a muzzle and throat gauge,my Greek return here measured 3 on the muzzle.:eek:

    It's still pretty accurate though.

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  8. lionking

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    I spent the whole weekend shooting.Some rsults here with 2 of the K31.The diopter sight makes a great difference in sighting.I'm still trying to get use to the K31 stock egronomics,it just doesn't feel to good to me but I like the rifles.

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  9. lionking

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    and I recently got a 1911.I only had 4 shots to try it out,because I used most of the ammo sighting in the diopter on the K31.

    My heart was beating hard for some reason when I tried it,so I'm sure next time I use it I'll have better results but I need to do some sighting in also.

    The rifle feels better to me than the K31.

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  10. lionking

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    and I tried a couple brands in the Persian.The WIN 170gr pictured did that.....S&B 196gr hit so low barely on paper.Amazing how different ammo can have such a huge difference.


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  11. Bazooka Joe71

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    I wish I had a milsurp that could shoot MOA...









    Maybe when I learn how to shoot I'll have one.:eek:
     
  12. spiroxlii

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    I love my K31 to death. It's my most accurate and finest milsurp.

    My SMLE is beaten to hell, but it's the "warmest" and smoothest rifle I own. It's quite accurate too, but not like the K31.
     
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    Out of the 30-some milsurp rifles I have, here are my favorites:

    swiss 1911
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    HRA Garand
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    1899 swedish m96
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    Swedish M41b

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