mil surplus powder-disapointment
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Wildbillz
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I have ordered a lot of stuff from Hi-Tech ammo. They are good folks. The prices are up right now but they were pretty cheap a few years ago.
The price on there pull down bullets for 5.56mm is still a good deal. Add to it the they ship in an ammo can (or at least did a year ago when I orderd 3000 of em) and your getting that in the cost as well.
The powders seem to be allmost as much as buying new powder now a days. So in most cases I would weigh the differance in cost of new or pull down and go from there. If pull down 4895 is $95 for 8# and I can get brand new 4895 in an 8# for $140? I would work the numbers and see what works out the best.
WB
The price on there pull down bullets for 5.56mm is still a good deal. Add to it the they ship in an ammo can (or at least did a year ago when I orderd 3000 of em) and your getting that in the cost as well.
The powders seem to be allmost as much as buying new powder now a days. So in most cases I would weigh the differance in cost of new or pull down and go from there. If pull down 4895 is $95 for 8# and I can get brand new 4895 in an 8# for $140? I would work the numbers and see what works out the best.
WB
I ordered about 7K from him about a year ago. I didn't get a ammo can but I got several hundred bullets free. Almost an extra 1K made up from all the different calibers I ordered & a bag they put in of the wrong thing. He sent the right ones ASAP & had me keep the others. That of course was 500 of the almost 1K.
I have talked to him alot & ordered a good bit of his stuff. He is really top notch.
I really wish I could meet some of these guys I do business with because they are so good. I wish the local guys were better to do business with.
I have talked to him alot & ordered a good bit of his stuff. He is really top notch.
I really wish I could meet some of these guys I do business with because they are so good. I wish the local guys were better to do business with.
USSR
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Can you even get surplus 4895 any more?
In watching Pat's website over the past several years, at times, he has had a listing for 4895, then below it saying it is Russian. While it may be the equivalent burn-rate-wise to IMR4895 and be a good powder, it is certainly not surplus IMR4895.
Don
Can you even get surplus 4895 any more?
In watching Pat's website over the past several years, at times, he has had a listing for 4895, then below it saying it is Russian. While it may be the equivalent burn-rate-wise to IMR4895 and be a good powder, it is certainly not surplus IMR4895.
Don
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I've not tried the Russian 4895 but I've heard it's good. I have used the Russian Unique (Salut powder) and I can't tell it from Unique except it meters a thousand times easier and it's far more accurate metering, and cleaner burning. I wish I had bought a lot more of it.
41 Mag
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While I haven't purchased in quite the bulk as some, I have used several of the surplus powder over the past 10 or so years. So far I haven't had anything go bad or produce anything out of the ordinary when loaded and stored for a while.
My uses have been mainly with the WC-860, and WC-870 for magnum calibers, but I have also run through some of the Salut, and a cople of jugs of the WC-297.
When I was looking to replace my stock of 296 I compared the prices and couldn't pass up trying the 297 for half the price of standard 296. It has been wonderfully accurate in my magnum revolvers, and with the lot I have is only slightly slower per caliber and weight of charge compared to my last lot of 296.
I do agree with what has been said about storage however, but I also have had newer off the shelf canister powders go south in a relatively short period of time as well, stored in the same areas as what my surplus has been stored in.
Like has been mentioned the prices have gone through the roof over the past few years, but if you find something you know your going to burn a lot of in a particular caliber, and the comparison saves you extra cash over the standard product, then why not give it a try. To me 5-10 dollars isn't going to do it, but 1/4 or more of the price on an 8# lot after shipping will at least get my attention.
My uses have been mainly with the WC-860, and WC-870 for magnum calibers, but I have also run through some of the Salut, and a cople of jugs of the WC-297.
When I was looking to replace my stock of 296 I compared the prices and couldn't pass up trying the 297 for half the price of standard 296. It has been wonderfully accurate in my magnum revolvers, and with the lot I have is only slightly slower per caliber and weight of charge compared to my last lot of 296.
I do agree with what has been said about storage however, but I also have had newer off the shelf canister powders go south in a relatively short period of time as well, stored in the same areas as what my surplus has been stored in.
Like has been mentioned the prices have gone through the roof over the past few years, but if you find something you know your going to burn a lot of in a particular caliber, and the comparison saves you extra cash over the standard product, then why not give it a try. To me 5-10 dollars isn't going to do it, but 1/4 or more of the price on an 8# lot after shipping will at least get my attention.
LiveLife
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Powder Valley has H4895 in stock in 1 and 8 lb containers for $19.75/$139.50.Kosh75287 said:
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