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Military issue .45 ID?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Ash_J_Williams, Sep 29, 2011.

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  1. Ash_J_Williams

    Ash_J_Williams member

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    No info other than the pic. Anyone know?

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  2. Lone Star

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    Is that a US&S gun?

    You really don't know the rarity and value? :rolleyes:


    Let's just say that it's too valuable to shoot.
     
  3. Reddragon1260

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    Looks like on the slide it says US & S so i guess it is a Union Signal & Switch gun
     
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    I'll take it off your hands for $300, I need a beater range gun.

    (just kidding, it looks like you've found yourself quite a rare gun, I'm jeleous)
     
  5. 1911Tuner

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    It's either a Union Switch, or it's a Union Switch slide on a mismatched frame. A picture of the other side, and a serial number will help tell the story. I can't see an inspector's mark on the left side...and that may be due to lighting. There should be R.C.D in a circle on the frame behind the trigger guard.

    A serial number will ID it. PM if you'd rather keep it on the QT.

    If it's a Union Switch & Signal...and it's original or correct...to be determined after more investigation...it's pretty valuable and highly sought after. US&S Co. in Swissvale made only 55,000 pistols. Only the Singer is more rare.

    Even if it is a mismatch...the slide alone is worth pretty serious bucks.
     
  6. Ash_J_Williams

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    I'm not a militaria or even auto guy. I like revolvers.
     
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    More likely a US&S replacement slide on a Colt commercial frame.
    The P is there but no inspector stamp,,,
    Looks like a pieces part gun made to dupe the gullible.
     
  8. 1911Tuner

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    Onmilo...that's my suspicion. I've embiggened the photo and looked until I'm near blind, and I can't see the inspector's mark. Not even sure that it's a Colt commercial frame unless it was parkerized at some point, though there are some unscrupulous sellers who will go to elaborate lengths.

    I came on a Union Switch at a gun show a few years back that was being represented as an original. It looked good, and I mean really good.

    Well...except for the fact that it had Frank J. Atwood's mark on it.

    When I announced in a voice that was...a little too loud to be a private conversation between me and the vendor over it being a mismatch...albeit a very good one...the guy got a little hostile as he raised his voice to announce to anyone within earshot that I should do a little research before I started trying to tell the experts their business.
     
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    Talk to Gary at rangfirearms.com he knows more about 1911's then anyone I know.
     
  11. Sport45

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    Can't add much info about the gun. But with the hammer back, shouldn't the safety be up? I don't recall ever seeing one displayed like that.
     
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