Mini 14 or SKS for Self Def

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  1. BudW

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    Mini 14 or SKS for Self Def.?
     
  2. Tomcat47

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    Mini 14 I guess! Depends on enviroment of self defense too! If in my home late at night I wouldnt want either as to not kill my kids in the other rooms or my neighbors from a shoot through.

    But honestly! I hate ann SKS :barf: Its just my opinion and I know I will catch it for saying that, But I hate ans SKS! :neener: and an AK47 for the matter!

    Oops that wasnt a choice! sorry...... Any way I like the mini 14 and the mini 30 too. The mini 30 would be more comparable to SKS also just food for thought!

    Good Luck!
     
  3. Gideon

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    Depends on what you mean for SD? I personally would favor the Mini-14 over the SKS any day of the week but wouldn't like either for in the house SD.

    I've shot both and feel the mini is better made; an all round better rifle.

    Gideon
     
  4. 54lariat

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    Mini for sure, I have an sks... Good for shooting turtles in our ponds, but not defense
     
  5. X-Rap

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    Funny, going back a couple days all the rage was matching mil spec. Heck the SKS is a real military weapon and nobody wants it?(all be it Red Chinese)
    I guess I like the SKS if for no other reason than reliability. The Mini's have some feeding problems unless you want to pay top dollar for the factory mags.
    Neither one have a stellar accuracy reputation but I'd give the SKS the edge by a ways there. The SKS used to cost less than $100 bucks but I still think you can get 2 for less than a Mini.
     
  6. HorseSoldier

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    The main downside for the SKS is going to be risk of overpenetration, which is higher than with a 5.56mm rifle. Smaller mag capacity as well, but the vast majority of real self-defense shootings only involve a few rounds fired, so 10 in the gun would be plenty.
     
  7. Rexster

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    I favor .223 for HD, and for most foreseeable SD situations other than HD. Moreover, the Mini has a very lefty-friendly safety lever, and shares handling characteristics with other rifles I favor. Then, admittedly, there is prejudice, dating from my coming of age during the Cold War, with the Vietnam part of that conflict being quite a part of the daily news at the time. The Mini also shares ammo with the AR15 I use at work, as a PD patrol rifle.

    I have two 580-series Mini-14 Ranch Rifles.
     
  8. JShirley

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    With HP or SP ammunition (no more expensive than FMJ), 7.62x39mm is at no more risk of overpenetration than .223. For emergency situations, I would prefer the versatility of the heavier round- which can legally take deer in rifle-legal states- to the lighter round (.22 ammunition is not legal for deer in some states, and in at least one state, caliber must exceed .24).

    SKS will tend to be sturdier, more reliable, and cheaper. Mini will have better sights and detachable mags.

    John
     
  9. blume357@bellsouth.net

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    simple answer: mini-14 why? made here in the U.S.A.

    newer ones (580 series) are dead on accurate...

    SKSs were a good choice back when they could be bought for $95.... not a bad rifle still for two or three hundred... except the new imports, Yugos or what ever, have to be the ugliest rifle ever with that dern widgit on the end of them. But they are still a basic commie rifle with one function... to be fired a few times by a poor peon soldier until he drops it when hit and picked up by the poor guy behind him and fired a few times until he gets hit and drops it....
     
  10. Shadow 7D

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    well cause I got it I will say SKS, accurate enough, little heavy but with it's own butter knife....

    And it's quick enough with strippers, reliable to a fault and more than able to stand up to dirty ammo and abuse I have put on it.
     
  11. WVleo

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    Tapcoed Sino-Soviet

    Hi, I built a nice little Urban Carbine out of a SKS I traded for. Tapcoed the heck out of it for legality sake and reliability as it was already Bubba'ed in one of those folding stocks. The former owner had trouble with the handguard assembly as He had added a cheese grater for looks but developed fit issues in doing so . Now I have 4 Tapco 20 round magazines proven out on the carbine and did the mods to load mags with bolt closed. Accuracy is Minute of BG, but often while practicing I employ the Spray & Pray policy by bump firing . Also dremeled the chamber in the 8PM-4PM area and this weapon has been reliable with any ammo. Ammo, tho not as cheap as Us now 50y/o men say in the day it still can be found at very good prices which translates to practice with the weapon. The SKS turned out to be just the platform I was looking for for a Urban Carbine build with tons of vendor support . Now if I wanted accurate weapon I might go with a Bolt action of some kind, but for a alley sweeper/roomclearer/zombie aka walking dead defense/plinker/hunter the SKS fit My needs.......WVleo
     

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    Both will be fine for self defense in my opinion. But the mini 14 is a dandy as it can carry hi cap and lighter to point with one hand.
     
  13. stubbicatt

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    With TAP or equivalent ammo the perils of overpenetration can be controlled somewhat.

    I would not feel undergunned by either of these rifles. I like the ergonomics of the Mini a little better than those of the SKS. However the SKS has the added benefit of a bayonet, which in a SD situation may actually come in handy, if ever you have been trained in the use of such a device.

    Somewhat aside, Sonny Pultizkas (sic?) has a great video on using the AK as a weapon for hand to hand type combat. There is much more to a rifle than just something for shooting at a distance. FWIW.
     
  14. NoirFan

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    Mini-14, no question for me. The Mini has superior sights and is superbly balanced. I have a lot of historical interest in the SKS but it feels like a brick on a stick in comparison.
     
  15. jeepguy

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    the mini 14 takes detachable mags, not stripper clips. comes with rings if you ever want to scope it. there is enough aftermarket options you can do whatever you want to them. i have one and love it. just stick with factory mags and they are reliable as you can get. with a m1 garand action you can't go wrong.
     
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    I owned a 188-series Ranch Rifle for years, and my wife owns a very nice Russian SKS that I've shot quite a bit. Based on my own observations, I'd say that assuming you can afford either (and these days, the price for a used mini vs. an SKS are not all that different), the mini-14 would be the superior defensive carbine.

    IMO, the mini wins in ergonomics, length, weight, and magazines (20 or 30 round detachable vs. 10- or 20-round fixed, unless you spend the extra $$$ to play the parts count game with the SKS). There are also a much better array of good HD loads in .223 than in 7.62x39mm, particularly if you live in a lightly constructed home in close proximity to similar homes. 7.62x39mm can be an excellent defensive round in the right circumstances, but it is more prone to exiting plywood-and-siding exterior walls intact than .223 JHP is.

    The SKS bayonet isn't sharp on the edges; Chinese SKS bayonets resemble a common screwdriver with a "+" shaped shaft, and Russian/European SKS bayonets are knife-shaped but with round edges, like the back side of a butter knife. Either one, if extended, would give an aggressor an extra 9.5 inches of leverage to slap the rifle off-target.

    There's also the matter of overall length. My wife's SKS is 40 inches long with the bayonet retracted and 49.5 inches long with it extended. If you're sheltering in place, that's not necessarily a problem, but in hallways and small rooms the extended bayonet could prevent you from bring the rifle to bear in some directions.
     
  17. FMJMIKE

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    Mini-14.................:D
     
  18. Carl N. Brown

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    If the gun is used for self-defense, expect it to go to an evidence locker until the case is adjudicated and even then you may not get it back.

    In other words, consider a self-defense gun a tool and an expendable tool at that: no collectibles, no heirlooms, no "granpa and I hunted with his Ruger and he left it to me in his will" sort of thing.

    That said, either a Mini14 or SKS would be usable, and in my book a run of the mill SKS would be usable and expendable.
     
  19. jem375

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    Instead of paying such high prices for a Ruger mini-14 mag, try Tapco mags, they work very well in my Mini..
     
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    SKS either would do but sks is a good choice
     
  21. Rshooter

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    Owning both I would recommend the Mini-14, want a larger round go with a mini-30. Great little rifles for HD with the proper ammunition. Also remember to practice with the ammunition you plan to use for SD so there are no surprises.
     
  22. Walkalong

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    I like the Mini 14 better, and it can use 30 & 40 round mags as well. Both will work just fine. You would not be under armed with either.
     
  23. bang_bang

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    One of my SKS rifles. I do not own a Mini 14, basically cause I just don't care for them, especially when I own a AR-15.
     
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    I much prefer the handling and ergonomics of the Mini-14 to the SKS.
     
  25. Al LaVodka

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    The NEW Mini-14, maybe. Otherwise, for the money? The SKS is probably a more consistant main battle rifle. An old Mini-14 for HD is a better pistol.
    Al
     
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