Minnesota gun "buyback" a bust.

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"Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.

One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.

“I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.

Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.

“A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.

A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”

The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.

One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29/minnesota-gun-buyback-program-dud-some-legal-owners-say.html
 
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Agreed... lol business partner? I have quite a few fence posts that would make excellent stocks for a fine firearm like that.

Why not keep turning those in until they run out of gift cards lol? 410 oughta be cheaper to make...
 
At first I thought Minneapolis taxpayers must be delighted to literally throw $25,000 of real money into the trash.

Then, I realized what an opportunity this presents. That cash wasn't just going to disappear. A lot of it probably went into purchasing new, real firearms.

Government effectively funding new firearm purchases...? That's something I can get behind. Bring it on.

Edit: after reading the story it seems the program was privately funded. Still a great idea.
 
Luckily, it was privately funded. Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to go make a purchase.

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Why don't they have any buy-backs in Maryland? I have a couple of SNSs that jam every other round that I'd like to get off the street and into a nice manhole cover!
 
I saw a gun buyback that went a lot like that. Only it was funded by a medium sized city. People were buying pellet guns at Walmart and making zip guns from the hardware store and raking in the cash. The police took in a load of junk, paid out tens of thousands of dollars, and had to shut the whole thing down in about 6 hours. It was supposed to run for a week.

But that photo beats it all - ATF legal with serial number and everything. Awesome.
 
Gun buyback programs=an opportunity for "creative" gunowners to make money off of other's misguided intentions.
 
Here in mn they are calling it a success since they had to close early because they took in so many guns. At least from the MSM.
 
As part of the approach to the sunset of the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban, the National Research Council did a review of empirical research studies on the AWB and several other gun control policies.

National Academy of Sciences, National Research Council,
"Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review" (2004) Gun Buy-Backs
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=95

They were skeptic of benefits from gun buybacks. Who said "insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"? Albert Einstein?

Gun Buy-Backs

Gun buy-back programs involve a government or private group paying individuals to turn in guns they possess. The programs do not require the participants to identify themselves, in order to encourage participation by offenders or those with weapons used in crimes. The guns are then destroyed. The theoretical premise for gun buy-back programs is that the program will lead to fewer guns on the streets because fewer guns are available for either theft or trade, and that consequently violence will decline. It is the committee’s view that the theory underlying gun buy-back programs is badly flawed and the empirical evidence demonstrates the ineffectiveness of these programs.

The theory on which gun buy-back programs is based is flawed in three respects.

First, the guns that are typically surrendered in gun buy-backs are those that are least likely to be used in criminal activities. Typically, the guns turned in tend to be of two types: (1) old, malfunctioning guns whose resale value is less than the reward offered in buy-back programs or (2) guns owned by individuals who derive little value from the possession of the guns (e.g., those who have inherited guns). The Police Executive Research Forum (1996) found this in their analysis of the differences between weapons handed in and those used in crimes. In contrast, those who are either using guns to carry out crimes or as protection in the course of engaging in other illegal activities, such as drug selling, have actively acquired their guns and are unlikely to want to participate in such programs.

Second, because replacement guns are relatively easily obtained, the actual decline in the number of guns on the street may be smaller than the number of guns that are turned in.

Third, the likelihood that any particular gun will be used in a crime in a given year is low. In 1999, approximately 6,500 homicides were committed with handguns. There are approximately 70 million handguns in the United States. Thus, if a different handgun were used in each homicide, the likelihood that a particular handgun would be used to kill an individual in a particular year is 1 in 10,000. The typical gun buy-back program yields less than 1,000 guns. Even ignoring the first two points made above (the guns turned in are unlikely to be used by criminals and may be replaced by purchases of new guns), one would expect a reduction of less than one-tenth of one homicide per year in response to such a gun buy-back program. The program might be cost-effective if those were the correct parameters, but the small scale makes it highly unlikely that its effects would be detected.

In light of the weakness in the theory underlying gun buy-backs, it is not surprising that research evaluations of U.S. efforts have consistently failed to document any link between such programs and reductions in gun violence (Callahan et al., 1994; Police Executive Research Forum, 1996; Rosenfeld, 1996).

Outside the United States there have been a small number of buy-backs of much larger quantities of weapons, in response to high-profile mass murders with firearms. Following a killing of 35 persons in Tasmania in 1996 by a lone gunman, the Australian government prohibited certain categories of long guns and provided funds to buy back all such weapons in private hands (Reuter and Mouzos, 2003). A total of 640,000 weapons were handed in to the government (at an average price of approximately $350), constituting about 20 percent of the estimated stock of weapons. The weapons subject to the buy-back, however, accounted for a modest share of all homicides or violent crimes more generally prior to the buy-back. Unsurprisingly, Reuter and Mouzos (2003) were unable to find evidence of a substantial decline in rates for these crimes. They noted that in the six years following the buy-back, there were no mass murders with firearms and fewer mass murders than in the previous period; these are both weak tests given the small numbers of such incidents annually.
 
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"Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.

One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.

“I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.

Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.

“A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.

A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”

The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.

One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29/minnesota-gun-buyback-program-dud-some-legal-owners-say.html

That was HILLARIOUS !!!!!!! :D
I'm gonna forward this to a bunch of folks !
 
Sounds like the buyback was a win/win/win for everyone involved. Some folks got to give away $25,000 and they now feel good. A few folks got rid of guns they weren't comfortable with being around and they now feel good. And a lot of folks got lots of money for useless guns that will be used to buy better guns. They now feel good.

I don't understand why people get upset over these. I've sold useless guns at them before. I have no trouble taking money from gun grabbers to use to improve my collection.

Every buyback program that I'm aware of uses funds raised or donated by folks who are pushing for more gun control. There may be some cases, but I've never heard of public funds being used to finance one of these. It would be illegal in many, of not most places so it is free to taxpayers.
 
A $100 gift card for a gun with perhaps $10 in materials and perhaps 40 minutes work ? Nice profit margin.
 
Mine had plastic grips held on with tape and was blued. Same amount of rust though. Don't regret selling it to the buy back at all!!!
 
I wonder if they would accept silencers at these 'buy backs'? I'm sure these bleeding hearts would be all for getting these instruments of war off the streets, right?

I wonder if they could be convinced to accept a bunch of old, used automotive oil filters, 'buying back' each one as a silencer. Gotta get these evil things off the streets after all.

I guess I could chop up a bunch of 2" PVC pipe and bring them all in and pitch the sale to the buyers. I wouldn't even ask $100 for each "silencer". I'd happily take $2.50 for each one. If they would help rid me of these terrible things, I could bring 10,000 [strike]pieces of PVC pipe[/strike]... I mean... wickedterriblenasty silencers, and I would accept all $25,000.
 
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