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Missing the Security-Six?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Confederate, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. Confederate

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    I sometimes think I'm the only one who misses the Ruger Security-Six.

    Or who still thinks of the GP-100 as being the new double action .357 offered by Ruger.

    I remember standing at a gun counter years ago and hefting a GP-100 and thinking it felt awfully awkward and front heavy; and wondering why Ruger would replace a brilliant, robust .357 revolver with a boat anchor like the GP-100. I was stumped. Then a few minutes ago I actually saw a guy on YouTube praising the Ruger Security-Six and saying the reason Ruger put out the GP-100 was because some of the Security-Sixes were “shooting loose.”

    Shooting loose??

    Yeah, like after about five billion times!

    So I dug out some of my Security-Six photos and I hope you'll post photos of your own. I could never figure out which barrel length to get, so I did what anyone in my situation would do. I got some in each barrel length.

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    One reason the Security-Six isn't likely to shoot loose is because of its modular construction and oversized pieces. It also could be broken down into those modular components in minutes:

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    Years ago, Smith & Wesson took out ads in gun magazines arguing that its forged steel was stronger than Ruger's investment cast steel:

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    Needless to say it didn't work, because it's not. All it did was make people hungry. (it sold the steak and the sizzle!) It still makes me hungry!

    If you have a Ruger Security-Six and want to post it, feel free. I'd especially like to see some comparison photos of the Security-Six and the GP-100.
     
  2. stonebuster

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    Very nice Security Sixes! IMG_0783.JPG Unfortunately I don't own a Security Six yet but for comparison here's a GP100 4.2", Speed Six 3" and SP101 2.25".
     
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  3. CajunBass

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    I've owned several Speed/Security-Sixes over the years. Good guns, but I never cared for them as much as I do the S&W Model 19. No particular reason for that, just a personal preference. They're good solid guns though.

    I guess my ex-wife still has the one she claimed when we split up (It was "her" gun, so I couldn't gripe). I tried to buy it from her a couple of times, but that girl always did know a good gun.

    Do I miss it? Well, I'm not really sure. I do know I never cared enough for the GP100 to even ask to see one.
     
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  4. DT Guy

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    Got one in stainless, a 6", for my 16th birthday. Loved it until I felt the trigger on a Model 19, and never bought another. Just couldn't get the triggers where I wanted them.

    To be fair, I shot Master class in PPC for several years, and I'm a 'trigger snob' of the first order, so I'm probably not their target audience.

    Larry
     
  5. Bush Pilot

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    The entire series is still one of best ever made.
     
  6. bikerdoc

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    Own a 3 inch and 4 inch.
    The 4 inch was issue by my dept. In 72, and they let buy it in 1990.
    IMO Ruger screwed up with the heavy, GP-100.
     
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    I have a 4" Service Six. Love it.
     
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  8. sgt127

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    I don’t actually have a Security Six. I do have a Speed Six .357 and a Police Service Six .38 Special though.

    I was really a S&W guy when I was younger. Some of my friends had Rugers and we all kind of felt sorry for them that they didn’t have a S&W or a Colt.

    It took me about 20 years to realize we were wrong. The Ruger Six Series are superb guns.

    I had to play a little catch up to get a few.

    (That Service Six is a genuine NYPD issue gun. Has a star in the crane. Got it direct from an Officer who left NYPD and went to Nassau County PD)

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  9. shoebox1.1

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    They are pretty!! I’ve never handled one.
     
  10. 357 Terms

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    I owned this Service Six for years, I would still have it if a gentleman hadn't wanted it more than his Stainless 5.5in 44 Redhawk, couldn't pass that trade up, still kinda miss that Six tho.
    Funny thing about that Police Service Six (161 prefix), it was younger than my 170 prefix blued GP100.



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  11. NIGHTLORD40K

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    While I think the GP looks better, I much prefer the S6 for its full grip steel frame-
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    Some nice looking sixes here!

    Ive never shot a DA Ruger. Though I have now seven of their SA revolvers. I do have an itch for a redhawk in the future.
     
  13. stonebuster

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    I like those grips on the Speed Six. Who makes them? How do they feel shooting 357s? They'd look good on my 2.75" Speed Six.
     
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  14. sgt127

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    http://www.herrettstocks.com/album.htm

    I “think” they’re checkered Shooting Masters.

    I’m not a good judge for mitigating recoil anymore. I’ve beat the snot out of my dainty little hands for 40 years. Dang near all Magnums hurt my hands now.

    But, damn they look good!
     
  15. bannockburn

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    Nope, not by a long shot!

    I still miss every Six Series gun I ever owned. Though they were far from being as smooth or as polished as a comparable S&W Model 19 I loved the modular design and the built-in strength that it gave the gun. I even write to Ruger's CEO on a semi-regular basis, asking him to at least bring back the Security Six but to no avail. Tried to like the GP100, really I did, but it just felt awkward, overweight, and poorly balanced. And the trigger was nowhere as good as the ones on my Security Sixes.

    So no Confederate, you're not the only one who misses the Security Six; I'm sure there are a bunch more of us out there still pining away for that long lost Six Series love!
     
  16. ThomasT

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    I have one security six blued with 4" barrel. I haven't shot it a lot but have no plans to sell it. I did replace the trigger spring with a Wolfe 12lb spring and that made a big difference in feel. Still not a S&W trigger but way better than the factory spring. Ruger had the wood grips for the SS on sale so I bought a set to get rid of the rubber grip my gun came with. They look like the Target S&W grips. My SS suits me and fills the need for another model 19.

    I also have a 6" GP and a 4" GP. I used the 6" way back in the early 1990s to shoot falling plate matches. I won a lot of thophies with that gun. And I worked on the trigger and its smooth as butter now. I love the 4" GP-100. Its so nice to shoot with my mid range 357 loads.

    I have read the GP-100 was designed bigger and stronger to meet a Mil-Spec for revolvers. And they are stronger than the security six. The first SS I owned had a bent pivot pin on the cylinder latch. Numerich had them in stock so I replaced the bent one. The same pivot pin on the GP is considerably bigger. The GP is a more robust gun IMHO.
     
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  17. PapaG

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    I have three plus a SP. Won't part with any of them. I also have a 19, a 29, and a 686 plus a few others. Toughness, Ruger. Accuracy, depends but the 686 beats my Rugers. Looks, Smith. Which ones will be tighter after thousands of rounds, I'm betting on my Security Six.
    Can't beat Smith's actions.
     
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    The reason bikerdoc only has two Security Sixes is that he sold one to me a few years ago and it is a beauty. I always wanted one and he took pity on me. I declared him to be my all time bestest grandpa.
     
  19. Buckeye63

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    I just have one Security Six .. SS 4 inch barreled 357mag .. a keeper... I wish I had all the Six series revolvers I owned in the past ..
     
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  20. bannockburn

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    Me too brother...me too!
     
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    I bought one in the early seventies for le duties not long after they first came out and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Maybe mine was an anomaly but the da pull on it stacked so much that an accurate shot was darn near impossible to make.
     
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    A very good friend of mine is a big player in the gun world.

    One of the original instructors at Gunsite. Old School IPSC campion etc.

    Loves the 1911.

    He has his original Security Six he grew up on as a kid and, a brand new one in the box.

    He believes them to be the greatest, most durable and reliable revolver ever made. Like “pick one gun and a case of ammo and get dropped anywhere on the face of the earth and survive” gun.

    I can’t disagree. I own a couple Registered Magnums. And a bunch of other great Colts and Smiths.

    The Ruger Six Series is, mechanically, a superb piece of engineering.
     
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  24. Confederate

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    As long as they don't find it next to your body with your fingerprints all over it!

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    Yes, the S&W model 19 has one thing the Ruger doesn't. Class. But I put Wolff springs in my guns and did what an NRA techie told me. Rent a good Western and put a few thousand dry fires through it. I did that and more. You should feel it now! It won't knock the socks off a tuned S&W 19, but it will beat a factory 19 all day long. This guy with the NRA technical department had a M19 and put hot magnum rounds through it that he loaded himself.

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    Ruger Speed-Six


    After about 2,000 rounds he had to have it retimed and he noted some frame stretching. He shot another 2,000+ hot rounds through it and tried to retime it. Alas, the gun had some problems and took it to a smith for repair. The smith got it working again, but warned him the forcing cone showed wear and that further firing of magnum loads would warp the frame and they'd be back to Square 1. So he retired the gun from shooting magnum loads and fired .38Spc from then on.

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    The forcing cone of a Security-Six is about the same size as that of a S&W 66, but for
    some reason they just don't wear the same. The forcing cone of the Security-Six seems
    to wear better, for some reason, to the S&W 66.Why? Who knows?


    That's when here got (drum role, please) a stainless Ruger Security-Six 4-incher. He immediately began shooting hot magnum loads through it and after 2,000 rounds, he inspected it. Nothing. Then another, and another, and another. Still, nothing. Even though the forcing cones were about the same size, the Ruger didn't show the same wear that the S&W did. The last I heard he had passed more than 11,000 hot rounds through it and it looked like the day he bought it. Several years later, I read where Skeeter Skelton (remember him?) wrote that he knew of three Security-Sixes, each of which had more than 30,000 hot magnum rounds through them, not to mention the countless .38Spc as well, and all three of them were still going strong. (Actually, it was significantly more than that, but I don't want to be called a liar.) One was spitting just a little, he said, but it was still fully functional.

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    The S&W 66 was a gorgeous revolver, but though it was about the same size and weight
    as the Security-Six, the latter would still be shooting long after the former had been recycled
    and turned into a manhole cover!


    I also learned how to round the corners, which I did on two of my 4-inchers (above) and one 2.75-inchers. I don't think I'd like them on a 6-inch, but if I change my mind I know where to find it!
     

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  25. bannockburn

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    I have related this story a number of times but it's still a pretty good one. Whether or not it's true sort of just adds to the legend of the Security Six.

    Back at the time when the Security Six was being introduced, Bill Ruger assembled a group of "gun people": writers, industry insiders, and the like to a live demonstration of the new revolver. A Security Six was placed in a remote firing handgun rest to which a solid barrel blank had been threaded into the gun. Ruger then proceeded to fire 6 proof loads through the gun, had the gun rebarreled with a regular barrel, fired 6 more proof loads, and then had the revolver thoroughly checked out. There was no damage done to the gun, the second 6 rounds ended up on target, and everything was still well within the tolerances for a new revolver.

    True story or not, I have owned enough Six Series revolvers to believe that the Security Six was that well designed and made to withstand that sort of test firing and go right on working; like it was another aspect of this gun being built like the proverbial tank that it was!
     
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