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Mobil 1 for oiling guns?

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by Heir Kommt Die Sonne, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. DukeConnor

    DukeConnor Member

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    All I use anymore is synthetic motor oil andcwherl bearing grease.
    I put mobil 1 in an old visine bottle. Puts it right where you want it.
     
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  2. bummer7

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    Quaker State 10-30w oil is what I currently use. Have tried several gun specific oils, grease, and lube over the years and none of them have ever stood out as exceptional. Motor oil seems to work well for my all my firearm needs. But I also don't let my firearms sit for years on-end either. All my guns get cleaned, checked, and oiled regularly. Some more than usual.

    As for using motor oil instead of gun oil, how much and how often do you lube your guns? I find a few drops of a good medium weight oil regularly applied in or on critical areas works wonders in helping keep my pistols functioning and reliable..
     
  3. Mr. Zorg

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    ATF has a lot of polymer content known as friction modifiers to keep it more stable under shear thus less susceptibleto viscosity reduction while in service, much like multiweight motor oils. There are specific high $$$ patents and proprietary / licenseor rights to many of the formulas including ATF+4, Dexron VI, and Mercon LV to name some of the older such fluids. Automotive greases are akin to soaps with significant solids added for the rolling friction environments they're formulated for.

    For corrosion resistance the most important part of the picture is excluding anything that can lead to that reaction. So theoretically a uniform oil layer as thin as one molecule wide that doesn't decompose into anything acidic would be sufficient. The reality is all oils break down over time in environments with oxygen present and even slight traces of water, moisture, allows acidic substances to ionize.

    The breakthrough in synthetic lubricants, including firearms, came during WWII with the Axis forces experiencing difficulties during the winters by their forces in what was then the USSR with for their time anyway finely crafted machinery. I haven't personally read of similar problems experienced by the forces of the USSR WRT small arms, and their forces were noted for building small fires under the engine compartments of their diesel powered vehicles (I haven't seen details but mymental picture has a fire to one side with coals / embers being periodically shoveled under the engine compartments rather than a blazing fire directly underneath but who really knows). With the ever evolving automotive engine oil requirements today many oils ate required to have some synthetic base oil content to meet manufacturers' specifications with European such as VW, BMW, Porsche, etc. being generally recognized as having some of the most difficult to formulate for. But I haven't yet seen bottles of plain synthetic base oil on the shelves at WM. Mobil 1 stopped using their definition of purely synthetic base oil (before their conflict with Castrol on that definition) around 15 years ago when several hurricanes wreaked their fury on the XOM manufacturing facilities for that material and have been blending Mobil 1 with (extremely high quality) base oil from crude oil since at least outside of Germany. It's all marketing terminology to a molecule manipulator like me as ethylene derived from cracking of petroleum is the building block molecule Mobil formerly contested was the only lubricating base oil worthy of the term "synthetic", and Penzoil's process from natural gas cost an eye-watering $25 billion, five times the cost of a refinery with similar volume product capacity producing an indistinguishable frm a performance perspective product from crude oil with the appropriate equipment and catalyst configuration.

    I've never used materials like Froglube uit I've seen mixed user reviews so I just stick with the same old Outers gun oil my dad used from Wyoming to Texas. It never let him down but if I was going hunting in extreme cold temperatures I'd see about testing how my rifle including lubrication stood up to that first if I could. Somehow the USSR firearms funcioned well enough 75+ years ago which may be in part attributed to larger manufacturing tolerances. I haven't looked into what Canadians or Scandinavians use for their hunting rifles but I'd do so if I had a really cold weather hunt coming up.

    Again, to each his own & YMMV. Nothing succeeds like success. What works, works (and what doesn't will reveal itself at some set of conditions and time period).
     
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  4. drband

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    Exactly.
     
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  5. BobABQ

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    I currently use Rem-oil but I have used Outers and Hoppes firearm oils. I shoot my Anschutz 1712 pretty much every Saturday and when my Wife starts up her MBA courses again this fall I will go back to shooting Saturday and Sunday mornings. I clean after each shooting session or if I go both days then after Sunday’s shooting session.
    I simply do not go through enough oil to be worried enough about the price that I am going to use motor oil instead.
     
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  6. Chuck R.

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    I use Mobile 1 Synthetic on my pistols and AR15s:

    Pistols; on barrel hood & bushing and linkage, I use grease on rails.
    AR15s; Bolt rails, bolt and CAM pin and any other shiny spot I find on the BCG.

    I don't know about long-term reliability, but I've used this lube technique in high volume defensive classes and 3Gun matches without an issue.
     
  7. JJFitch

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    As a retired PPC shooter I did the same thing. Twice a month 300 rounds revolver and 300 rounds Semi-auto at matches and 3-500 rounds at practice!

    Made cleaning easier for sure!

    Smiles,
     
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  8. bummer7

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    When I started shooting bullseye pistol in the '70s. I was told the elbow served as the point where oil dripped off the arm from my pistol. And yes, there were some shooters who lubed their pistols to the point it spit oil with every shot.

    Then there are competitors who put a drop of oil on the first round of every magazine because they believe it helps feeding.

    I can only imagine excess oil will soften the crud and carbon buildup in a pistol making it easier to clean.:)
     
  9. X62503

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    How on Earth do you get it into the old Visine bottle?
     
  10. George P

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    Take an empty bottle, squeeze all the air out, stick it in the oil and then release; it should suck some up. Personally, I use a small refillable squeeze bottle with a needle applicator; my wife found a 6 pack of them for a few bucks, similar to this:
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  11. DukeConnor

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    the eye dropper part pulls out. pour oil in with a small funnel and push the dropper part back in.
     
  12. X62503

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    THR = the most awesome board on the internet.
     
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  13. film495

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    I'd have some concern that detergents or additives they put in might not play well with old bluing or finishes. I just use gun oil, but don't go through enough of it to blink at the cost of it to look for cheaper options. If I was shooting somewhere and didn't have oil, don't think I'd hesitate to pull a few drops from whatever was in my auto, but not a first pick.
     
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  14. 3Crows

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    I also use Mobil 1 for oiling and Mobil 1 red grease as well where a grease is needed. Works good in cars and motorcycles and air compressors and ------. But Hoppes for cleaning and Ballistol for general use, rust prevention and lubrication as well.
     
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