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Molon Labe - 300... amazing preview

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  1. Sean Dempsey

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    I can only hope that this cartoonish movie has captured the valor of the men who stopped the Persians and the importance of their deaths to our now still-fledgling Western Democracy as a concept of Rule.

    These 300 men could have easily been "Barons" or "Dukes" under Persian rule. The "reasonable" politicians in Athens abandoned them, yet they chose to die fighting for freedom.

    It seems to me that we're still fighting that fight against those who don't accept or understand liberty and who want only to destroy Western culture.
     
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    Most of us are paying taxes to support those who are destroying Western culture (e.g., those who run the Aid To Dependent Dictator programs). Especially those of us living in MN (are we the 4th-highest-taxed still, or did we move up to 3rd?).
     
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    I am more excited about this movie than any movie in years. Excellent story - the story of the 300 is bravery and honor personified. Frank Miller is one of the best writers of our time (IMHO) and the style of the movie is epic. An opening day flick for sure.
     
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    Don't expect it to reflect history. It's a comic book, nothing more. There will be plenty of oiled preening and posturing in slow motion while heavy metal plays.
     
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    I'm betting it will either be very good or very bad.
     
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    The sword wielded by Leonidas didn't look right. Didn't see any breastplates in the preview either. Bad eyes? I thought the Lacadaemonians/Spartiates/Spartans kept their hair long and brushed them before the battle. I thought the Lambda on the shields were painted on and not embossed. What the heck! It's Hollywood and it's for entertainment, not education. Looking forward to this one.
     
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    If the entire movie is as the trailers are it should be worth the price of admission.
     
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    Having read the comic, I can say that it will be an excellent movie if it lives up to that standard. It's still more entertainment than history lessons. The Spartans, for example, carry not a stitch of clothing besides a cape and sometimes(!) a bit of hide to gird their loins. No armor apart from a shield and a helmet. And there is some freedom talk. No doubt the Spartans were fighting for such but it wouldn't quite match the modern concept.
     
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    I'm warning you people! Watch this film and the next thing they'll be making a movie about Gettysburg where a half naked Brad Pitt as Lee fights Lincoln, who's a CGI mutant with rifle muskets for arms and a top hat cannon.
     
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    Errr...

    Look up the word laconic, and its etymology.
    Then observe movie's trailer for the manner in which its "Spartans" express themselves.
    Think this new movie is purely FEPO (for entertainment puposes only)?

    Naaaaahhh, couldn't be.



    :)
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    A modern movie, even if made more historical, about the Spartans could never be portrayed accurately and still sell in our nation.

    To put it simply, the Spartans were a strange people with a very different culture. They put newborns with any defects or not considered to be ideal or strong enough to be a warrior out for the animals to eat. It was expected that adult men would have sexual relationships with male children, and adult women would take a young female lover into the home. In fact there was even a fine for adult men who did not have a boy lover. Thirteen year old boys were sent off and expected to steal and kill to survive in the countryside as a right of passage.

    So to say an accurate portrayal of Spartans would not be tolerated or successful, or relatable to modern society is an understatement.

    Thier fearsome reputation in battle, and absolute loyalty to Sparta, and sense of honor that they are known for aside, most people do not really want to see thier culture in a movie. The simply want to see modern family structure, and moral concepts, in an ancient context, filled with battle and romance.
     
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    I'll be honest, I never read the book or comic book or whatever. I never even heard of this until I saw the previews. No, I don't mean I never heard the actual historical story, I mean I never heard of the "300" adaptation.

    Judging by the previews, it looks like it's going to be a really cheesy cartoon flop. The Persians as monsters? Are you kidding me? It's gonna bomb.
     
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    People have been waiting for this movie for a while. The audience its geared for doesnt really care about history or even if it is a real story. Huge battles with crazy monsters is going to sell.
     
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    It's an art film

    Really, frame by frame.

    It may capture the spirit but I doubt there's a valid costume or weapon in it.

    It's a time honored tradition to inflate stories.

    Lemme tell you about the 18 foot horned catfish that gored my friend Bob...

    One of the few films I'll actually go to a real theater to see.
     
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    People who are expecting historical accuracy are going to be disappointed - this isn't a historical movie. It is a comic book adaption. Taken with that in mind, it looks like a fun movie.

    Good find on this clip - thanks for posting it!

    Jen
     
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    It seems that there are plenty of people who are interested in using this film and the general story about the the Spartan war with Persia (which is probably apocryphal at best as we know it) as a methaphor for the current campaign "we" are fighting against the Islamic world.
     
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    I just read the graphic novel a few minutes ago.
    The movie, from the trailers, is obviously 100% based on the book, right down to the wrong swords and near-complete absence of clothing.
    The book is short enough that they can actually film the whole thing accurately and still come in within allowed time. Comparing trailers to pages, I'm expecting a shot-for-picture exact correlation.

    No, it's not meant to be historically accurate. It's inspiring artistic historical drama. Cope.
     
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    Pressfield made that horrific golf:barf: book, Bagger Vance, into a movie. Why can't he have Gates of Fire made into a movie?:(

    Despite the WASP mug, I'd be a great Dienekes, or even Dithyrambos.:) :cool:

    "Mr. Tejon, we're ready for your close up.":D
     
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    When I first saw the preview a few months back, I was pretty sure it would be terrible.

    I am convinced.

    (But I hated Sin City too, so I guess I'm not the audience.)
     
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    I am totally stoked for this movie. As excited as I have been in a long time.
     
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    On top of that theirs was a very stratified society where the spartan warriors
    were the only ones who did carry the weapons, had a slave sub-population,
    and rountinely carried out progroms to keep their sub-populations in check.

    Not exactly the kind of guys we should be glorifying, huh?

    Also, I find the timing of the this movie interesting given our current state
    of international affairs with the Persians.

    Some more info on Sparta:

    So it was an increasingly smaller number of people who could possess weapons in that society. ;)
     
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    Good Gawd!! How'd they ever get around to making babies?

    Biker
     
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    Will be a great movie.

    Remember, all stories are true, some actually happened. I liked The Da Vinci Code, too, but it wasn't ecactly science.
    How many watched and enjoyed JFK? It was a great film, and not a great piece of historical fact.
    If you aren't going to go to a movvie, because it's not historically correct, sit at home and watch The Hitler Channel (or is it the History Channel? Can't tell.)
    This will be a great movie like the Springfield Armory GI is a great pistol. Not historically accurate, but still really sweet.
    Steve
     
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    The preview I saw last night said it was in IMAX. Hope it makes it to the IMAX around here. I'm gonna plunk down my $10 or $12 bucks & bet I enjoy it.

    Tuckerdog1
     
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