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Molon Labe .... the book

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Phaetos, May 9, 2007.

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  1. Phaetos

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  2. Zundfolge

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    Yep ... many of us have read it.

    The author is a member here BTW http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=25546 (assuming thats the actual Boston T. Party and not just someone using his name).

    Its a good one but the better books in that genre are Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matt Bracken (also a member here) and Unintended Consequences by John Ross (who I also think may be a member here).
     
  3. mindwip

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    Yes i have.
    Its a good book. A very libertarian author. So if you hate libertarian ideas you might not like it. Its a fun read about rebels with a cause. One of more freedom. The book also makes the events sound like they could happen for real.


    Read it, at the very least you have some firewood.
     
  4. Phaetos

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    I was perusing Amazon for the John Ross book, as he was the guest on Shooting Gallery today. Was impressed with a guy that can fire a .50 BMG from his shoulder!!! :what:

    I now have a 7 book wishlist on Amazon. Gotta find them cheaper.
     
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  5. Correia

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    Piece of cake. It actually recoils less than being prone as you have more give. The hard part is holding that heavy of a gun steady enough to aim.
     
  6. nhhillbilly

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    Get all three. U/C, ML, EFD
     
  7. lamazza

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    The fake 'Playboy Interviews' in Molon Labe are excellent!! You must also check out Boston'e Gun Bible( A must have). John Ross's book Unintended Consequences was even MORE enjoyable!
     
  8. Caimlas

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    Never read Molon Labe, though I've read Enemies Foreign and Domestic and Unintended Consequences. Also, check out "Lights Out" - a quick google for "shtf fiction lights out" should turn it up in the first hit. Someone on here and arfcom wrote it, can't recall the handle right now. Halffast?

    EFD is OK - didn't care for the ending so much; it was a bit of a downer and likely all too realistic to what would really happen. His sequel looks better, IMO, but I've not read it yet (is it out yet?).

    UC is really, really slow for the first 150 or so pages, and is written quite verbosely. It starts getting good right about then, though, and has a lot of history intertwined. It's not pulp fiction, and very well done with incredibly well developed characters.
     
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    Boston is a farce , nothing but a cash hungry BS artist . He gets others to do his bidding . Take what he says with a pound of salt .

    Freestaters are not making friends here .
     
  10. Gator

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    I enjoyed "Molon Labe" quite a bit, not as much as UC, but that's a hard book to top!
     
  11. Ghengis Kahn

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    Matthew Bracken's here? Jeez! His book EF/D is what turned me from a commie to a pro-Constitution Libertarian! Powerful stuff! I reccomend it to everybody!

    Thanks Matt! :D
     
  12. lamazza

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    Please explain. I thought his ideas were very honest and straight forward.
     
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    Yeah, and I am going to take your opinion seriously....:scrutiny:

    Why don't you provide some evidence for the claims you made about someone?

    Boston knows what he is talking about. He's written 11 or so books, so based upon the quality of his writing, you've got a lot of gaul talking trash.

    When you get a few more posts under your belt (like more than 6, Troll) and have something useful and substantiated to say, then come back. For now, pound sand.:cuss:

    Ss
     
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    As books and writing go, Unintended Consequences and the Enemies soon-to-be-trilogy are much better written, have better character development and are much more "readable".

    I thought about 50% of Molon Labe read like a dry policy statement from the State Department. He could have done without at least 1/2 of the "preaching" and still got his points across.
     
  15. Phaetos

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    Wow .. look what I started :eek: I will be ordering U/C soon enough.
     
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    Don't suppose anyone knows when the third Enemies is out?

    I was thinking of buying them all at the same time.
     
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    Have read all of the above, very good stuff. Enemies Domestic is pretty good, also.

    Just don't feed the trolls.
     
  18. Boston T. Party

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    It's me.


    Guys, thanks for the kind praise of Molôn Labé!

    If you all are free 22-24 June, think about attending our FSW Jamboree.
    We've two Camp Guernsey rifle ranges for the weekend:
    http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum//index.php?topic=3820.msg26792#msg26792

    Boston T. Party (aka Kenneth W. Royce)
    http://www.javelinpress.com (Boston's books)
    http://www.freestatewyoming.org (FSW website)
    http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php (FSW forum open to all)


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    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    -- Neil Stephenson, Cryptonomicon


    Did you miss that part in THR rules prohibiting ad hominem attacks?
    I think you're looking for The Low Road forum...

     
  19. Albatross

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    Boston T Party (Kenneth Royce) writes some great non-fiction.

    His books “You and the Police," "Boston's Gun Bible," "Bulletproof Privacy,” and "Boston on Surviving Y2K" are extremely well written and interesting to read. His non-fiction writing is well organized and filled with concise, useful information. His prose is light and easy to read. He doesn’t take himself too seriously and actually pens in a number of great jokes.

    However, the book Molon Labe, leaves a lot to be desired in a fiction work. The book is more like a manual and less like a novel. The characters and their interactions are terrible cliché and the plot is just as obvious.

    Honestly, the book isn’t dreadful, but it is far from great and unless you’re specifically interested in the topic matter it would be hard to read.

    That said, Molon Labe is leaps and bounds better than most of the survival fiction posted on the boards.

    /Lights out is better and free.
    //Proud owner of Molon Labe.
    ///Boston is the real deal. I try to be more like him.
     
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    First - yes, lets kindly leave the ad-homs out of the discussion please. You have a beef with the man, take it to PMs or email.

    Now that business is over.... :)

    Given that its focus is on a relatively peaceful state-based solution to "the Federal Problem" I must confess, I think the path described in the book is far preferable to that in UC or EFAD... it's one of those things I'd like to see work, though I'm still dubious as to whether it could.

    The more I think on it, it's a qualitatively different book than the other two, focusing more on strategies and principles than the straight-out "SHTF" feel of the other two. So it pretty much depends on what you're looking for. While I might not put it at the very top of the pile for "things to read on a rainy weekend" it's still definitely worth a looksee.
     
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    Funny thing is i agree with you on the book having a good portion (personal dont think as much as half) as a policy statement, but i sure liked reading it, not dry to me. :D


    The Gun Bible is a good read, i look at is as a book that covers the basics of everything about shooting and things related. It does a good job of teaching you a bit about lots of different areas, and is a good refresher, or as an intro into the world of "guns". I must admit thou that some areas are covered very throughly in the book, and not just skimmed over. Well worth the money, to have all that info in one place.


    Thanks to others for bring up, Unintended Consequences and the Enemies soon-to-be-trilogy. Looks like a good read, ordering Unintended Consequences tonight.
     
  22. Boston T. Party

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    The scenario is a long-shot, but is possible with sufficient
    relocators and some organization. There's no reason why Wyoming
    could not be eventually governed by freedom-minded folks of the
    shooting culture. There are certainly enough of us, however scattered
    about.


    Regarding comments about how Molôn Labé! in some places reads
    like a nonfiction manual, that aspect was unavoidable. It is less of a
    novel than most novels, because its primary character wasn't even a
    character at all, but the plan/execution of an idea. For all the book's
    shortcomings, Molôn Labé! is energizing many people to give
    Wyoming a serious look. Hundreds have joined the FSW and dozens
    of them have already relocated. That my book was/is pivotal in getting
    actual movers to Wyoming is incredibly humbling to me even three
    years later.

    Whatever happens there will certainly be a longer and bumpier road
    than in my story, but if relocation numbers really begin to swell we
    can accomplish quite a lot and finally not feel outvoted and marginal
    everywhere else.

    Boston

    http://www.javelinpress.com (Boston's books)
    http://www.freestatewyoming.org (FSW website)
    http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum/index.php (FSW forum open to all)

     
  23. todd740

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    I have read it a few times and enjoyed every one of them. I also have read both of Mathew Bracken's books as well as UC. All of them are great reads and worthy of re-reading. I also heard that John Ross was working on another book.
     
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    Purchased Molon Labe on a lark at a gun show in Indianapolis. While I admit to poking a little good natured fun at the Free Staters (*kicks rocks* maybe I said that they should look into locating in that other utopia, New Harmony, Indiana:D), I did find the work intellectually stimulating and passed the book along to my brother.

    Hmmm, Wyoming, huh? Do they play euchre, basketball and shoot guns there?:scrutiny: :D
     
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    +1.

    Boston's Gun Bible is very informative and enjoyable. I also enjoyed Molôn Labé!. As some have said, it gets wordy at times--but that kinda goes with the territory. The book is intended to preach aspects of free-market libertarianism. Most books with a message err on the side of verbosity.

    Hopefully it isn't a spoiler, but it's interesting that the book included a bit of nuclear blackmail. It raises the interesting point that a peaceful secession would be difficult if the administration were willing to exterminate the secessionists--just as the insurgencies in Iraq, Afghanistan and Gaza would be ended quickly if the US or Israel were willing to commit genocide. Secession--and insurgency--assumes that there's a limit to the brutality of the oppressor.

    Boston, pleased to meet you! You've actually motivated me to look at FSW, which is saying a lot considering I'm an arthritic, overweight computer programmer.

    --Len.
     
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