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Monarch ammo Made in Serbia?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Lonestar.45, Mar 17, 2006.

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  1. Lonestar.45

    Lonestar.45 Member

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    At the Academy Sports here in Texas, I have recently been seeing rifle ammo called "Monarch". It's priced really cheap, and I'm wondering if anyone has tried it? It says "made in Serbia" on the back.

    I'm not talking about the 7.62x39 stuff in the blue box (that's made by Barnaul, I know). I'm talking about .270 Win, 30-06, 7mm rem mag, .223, and 30-30 stuff in brownish boxes, softpoints, going from about $6 a box for 30-30 to $11 a box for 7mm rem mag. It's cheaper than any Winchester or Remington stuff out there for sure. It's all brass cased.

    Does anyone have a clue about this stuff?
     
  2. ball3006

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    Yeah, I saw this ammo....

    in the Academy near me. I only noticed the 7.62x39 fmj, box said hunting ammo, for 2.99. I should have picked up a few boxes but I was after 22 ammo they had on sale for 6.80 a brick.....chris3
     
  3. Lonestar.45

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    The 7.62x39 is good stuff, I've put a lot of it through my SKS and AK and it works great. Steel cased FMJ.
    I'm really wondering about these .270 and 7mm rem mag loads though.
     
  4. asknight

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    As you said, the blue box is Barnaul. The Serbian is brass cased, made by Hotshot I think.
     
  5. longhorngunman

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    If it's brass cased it's made in Serbia by Prvi Partizan. They market their ammo under the Century "Hotshot" name and also make Wolf Gold. Really wish Graf would get in some of their 7.5*55 brass. Privi is the only maker besides the outrageously expensive Norma brand. LoneStar, hopefully their will be some good deals on Wolf at the Austin Funshow this weekend, I know I need to stock up on .308 for my new FAL and Ptr 91 that are coming in!
     
  6. Lonestar.45

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    I'm hitting the Austin show this weekend too in search of Wolf. Last month there wasn't much to be had.

    I may try some of that Monach stuff from Academy in my .270 and 7mm Rem mag to see how it does. It's brass cased and looks good, can't beat $11 a box 7mm rem mag!
     
  7. rangerruck

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    yeah, i live here in housotn as well. monarch is pretty much trying to take over the most popular cals in bullets. i have used the 308, 762.39 and the 223. ive had no squibs, misfires, and have gotten good groups with all of it thus far, but i do have very accurate guns, also.
     
  8. Malone LaVeigh

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    Results on 7.62 X 39 seem positive, but I had real bad results from the .308 and .223. The .308 was all over the place from a G-3 and a Garand.

    I had a massive amount of failures to fire from an AR yesterday. In the first box, two out of 20. In the second, more like 15/20 were duds. The primers are visibly recessed and most had some firing pin marks, some pretty deep. We also shot several mags of commercial and Guatemalan surplus, with only one failure. That one also showed a slight indent in the primer, so there might be a firing pin problem with that rifle, but there is a clear difference with the Monarch. The unfired surplus round fired the second time it was fed.
     
  9. Henry455

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    I tried a box of the Academy Monarch .223 55 gr. FMJ brass cased ammo today in my RRA Varmit upper and had a few surprises. The bad news is that I had 2 shots that short stroked ( next cartridge chambered but hammer did not cock), the good news is the first 10 shot group measured 1.4" (100 yds.) and the second measured 1.25", better than Q3131, Federal AE and WWB.
     
  10. esldude

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    Well only tried the .223 so far. Got pretty mediocre groups with them. No problems firing. But sub-standard accuracy in a Mini14 , Ruger #1, and Savage 10FP when group shooting from the bench. Especially poor results in the 10 FP. Nothing under 2 inches in what is a sub-moa rifle using Winchester white box ammo.
     
  11. belton-deer-hunter

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    just yesterday i was told that i should try these monarchs in 30-30 for my marlin. theses are supposed to be good plinking ammoi havent tried them yet
     
  12. onebigelf

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    Monarch Green box $3.86

    I haven't tried firing it yet, but it looks ok visually. Brass case w/annealed casemouth. I picked up a few boxes to do a barrel break-in for which I'm not concerned about accuracy, just that the ammo is copper jacketed. If it shoot acceptably, that's 193 /1000 for brass cased reloadable which ain't awful.

    Iain...
     
  13. SWC Bonfire

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    RE: 30-30

    I have tried the monarch 30-30 ammo and like it a lot. It is accurate and must be a bit shorter than winchester or remington ammo, because 7 rounds will fit into the magazine of my M94 instead of six. That may also be because of the shape of the bullet (it is more of a truncated cone) fits further up into the follower. I'm too chicken to leave seven in there for long, it's bound to be putting more pressure on the primers than they were designed for. Don't know how well this bullet performs from an expansion standpoint.

    I cleaned my rifle after shooting thinking that it might be dirty, but it wasn't dirty at all. I need to go get a bunch more for sighting in my new scope before I let it eat some (expensive) leverevolution ammo.

    Overall I was impressed, and it was like $6.87 a box of 20.
     
  14. Deer Hunter

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    Monarch would make Marlin seize up, and I'd have to operate the lever wish a bit more force to eject it. Other than that, it was fine. This only occured with my Marlin maybe once every 30-40 shots.

    However, I dissasembled and cleaned my future brother-in-law's 336 Marlin the other day, and I noticed a little bit of rust on the bolt. I cleaned the gun nicely, showed him how to take it appart and put it back together, and sold him a box of my Monarch I had stocked away (I made 5 bucks :neener: ).

    When we go to shoot it, it would take a lot of force to open the action again. This happened on every single round. The only exception was the last 2. He then informed me that the gun had probably never been shot in 20 years.
     
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    i'll second that stickyness

    Monarch makes my Marlin336 jam also. There is no rust on my rifle.

    Seems good to do it about 2 rounds per box of 20. Really gotta crank on it to get it back open. I'll be loading out with the Federal PowerShoks for plinkin' fun from now on. They are only about a dollar more than the Serb stuff.
     
  16. Don357

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    Hey, I've shot lots of the 9mm para and .40cal Monarch, both Serbian and Russian and so far so good. No problems to speak of. I've got some of the
    .308, but haven't tried it yet. As soon as I get to the range I'll see what my Cetme thinks of it and let you know.
     
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    Monarch Green Box $3.86? I've got one of those - I'm thinking about framing it.
     
  18. Dr.Rob

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    I shot a box of Privi Partizan .44 mag /300 through my Marlin 1894 with no hiccups, misfires or signs of overpressure.

    My understanding is "Monarch" is made for Academy like "Hot Shot" is made for Century.
     
  19. Don357

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    Monarch ammo

    I finally shot some of the .308 in my CIA CETME, only tried 5 rds of the 150 gn sft pt, but the old girl handled it quite well. No hang-ups or fail-to-ejects. I believe I'll try some more.
     
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    So is this stuff reloadable?
     
  21. Nathanael_Greene

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    I've used the .30-06 to hunt pigs, and it's been fine. Shoots a little dirty, but puts the bullet where I want it, and I've got pork in the freezer as proof.
     
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    shoots dirty...have put a ton through my ak..have put a few boxes of the .308 through my Fal...seems to work fine...havent really looked into the accuracy...although it will shoot minute of major appliance everytime
     
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    my rem 788 in 243 hated the stuff. had to hit the bolt with the heel of my hand a couple of times to get it to open. i had cleaned the gun the night before so i know that wasn't the problem
     
  24. Zero Knives

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    I've moved over to Monarch exclusively for .45 ACP. I've put about 600 rds of the stuff through my Kimber and it likes it fine. I brought 200 rds to the Uzitalk shoot and it made short work of river debris. I took the remainder to the range the next week and it grouped nicely at 7 yards (by my extremely loose standards). It's a bit dirty, but not much worse than the WWB that was my previous staple...

    Ram
     
  25. patrickg

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    Monarch has given me nothing but problems!!!

    I know this thread is old but just wanted to share my opinion for anyone who might still come across this thread.

    Last week I bought a brand new M&P 9mm and I bought Winchester rounds for the range that night. I took it out, shot over 100+ rounds and had ZERO problems with the gun. I was very happy with my purchase. Then two nights ago I went to Academy and bought Monarch 9mm ammo and took it to the range. After about 50 rounds, I had close to 15 problems. Either the gun jammed or stove piped and the slide didn't catch the next round in the magazine the other times. Also, my shots where not as accurate with Monarch, I had a few maverick shots that did their own thing.

    After going through about one Monarch box I was pissed!!! :cuss:

    I figured something may have happened to the gun during the week prior that was causing this but didn't know what. Luckily I still had another box of Winchester 9mm ammo in my bag, took that out and loaded it all in my magazines. ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS w/ Winchester ammo. Where, 2 minutes prior I was pulling out the mag and fixing a jam that I knew shouldn't be happening.

    Long story short, Monarch failed my gun many times and I returned the un used box and will never buy that brand again. I would say Monarch is Russian made crap and you shouldn't spend any less than Winchester, in my opinion. It's only 2 or 3 dollars more per box which is worth it if it's going to go easier on my hand gun.

    Monarch - :banghead:
     
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