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Moorhead considers replica gun ban

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by Guillermo, Aug 17, 2010.

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  1. gun guy

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    It seems a key point is being missed here. Many replica guns very real looking. But, its a toy, so, it's not well regulated and often, a parent wants their child, to play with guns, so they buy them a replica toy. Anyone remember the Johnny Eagle series? Every kid on the block, had one, or wanted one. Now, you have kids, playing with realistic weapons, in a split second decision, a kid hops your fence one night, playin tag, you see a gunman and fire. Same with the police officer. Thats the issue, not if you're wearing an airsoft to walk the dog.
    http://www.jkretail.com/bonus/searc...ource=search&type=any&query=johnny+eagle+guns
     
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  2. Guillermo

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    GG, you are right

    a very very few people are harmed by playing with realistic looking guns

    enough to pass a law?

    No
     
  3. Guillermo

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    Moorhead does not have high IQ standards to become a policeman or the fake guns are a lot more lethal up their in the frozen tundra.

    Or more likely, this was a soundbite created by a marketing company that someone didn't think about before they went to the press.
     
  4. Brass Rain

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    I don't have a huge problem with this. Toy guns and replicas aren't firearms, or even close. They don't give you any of the advantages of having a gun for personal protection, but all the disadvantages. They just open up the doors for misunderstandings with no positive benefit. I mean, it's not very just to stop people from carrying around something that's no more than a toy, but the action of doing so seems like a plain bad idea. And if it was just one's own life one was risking by doing so, that'd be one thing. But we're also considering kids and people around the person carrying a replica.

    When I was younger I was interested in Airsoft guns as a cheap, still fun alternative for when I couldn't go shoot real guns. And I would occasionally have them with me when hanging around with friends, so we could be going in the woods or whatever to pop off a couple of the little BBs at each other, or to shoot tin cans and whatnot. But in public areas I always took care to keep them out of sight, because the sight of them would only cause people to misunderstand and jump to conclusions and possibly have the police called on my friends and I. In this day and age, you just can't get away with that kind of thing.
     
  5. Guillermo

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    the anti-freedom people that are on a board dedicated to liberty are puzzling at best
     
  6. esquare

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    I believe this problem is a social problem - kids aren't being taught the safe use of firearms in school or out of school. Parents fail to educate themselves as well as their kids. We don't need a law to fix this (other than mandating firearms safely and training is school) - it will never work that way. We need to go back to a better time and get smarter about firearms.

    I don't understand how 60-80 years ago kids grew up playing cops and robbers with cap guns (which were realistic enough) in their streets and back yards and it wasn't a problem. Then, many of them started hunting in grade school and could hunt by themselves in middle school and carry their weapons to school in deer season, participate on the school shooting team, and be around loaded guns in the home all the time without supervision. Yet, today, we have situations where kids get shot by officers because they were carrying a fake gun.

    The issue of the kids going down to school to play laser tag is a truly amazing story replete with stupidity in my book. 1, the kids should have had better judgment. 2. The kids' parents should have set some boundaries and also known what they were doing. 3. The lady that called the cops should have exercised much more caution and maybe watched them for a little longer to see what they were doing. 4. The cop frankly is really to blame the least, if at all. People need to know that if you point something that looks like a gun at anyone - especially a cop, you may get shot. I thought that was common knowledge but apparently today it isn't.

    Honestly, and it's not PC but I'll say it anyway, I think the lady that called the cops is at most to blame for this accident. She could have watched them to see what they were doing, she could have called out to them to stop or explain what was going on.

    That's just my grumpy rant about this. :)
     
  7. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    My school is probably one of the few left in the country that has a rifle team. Then again its small and has little interest in the rifle team to get it going.
     
  8. hso

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    This is a solution looking for a problem. What are the statistics that say there are any increased instances of shootings of kids with airsoft or replica firearms? I've never heard of one. That doesn't mean there isn't a problem, but it does mean that without solid evidence that there's a need for a new regulation that there's no reason for one.
     
  9. 19&41

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    I see a police chief seeking to justify his continued employment by vilifying an inanimate object. In Atlanta it was a cartoon character key chain.
     
  10. Wadero

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    In Moorhead there was a police call that involved an intoxicated individual with a fake gun in his waistband. Convenience store worker got scared and made the call after the guy had left and the police went and tracked the guy down on a residential street.

    MN already has a statute against terrorizing someone with a fake gun:
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.713

    This guy bothered people but wasn't actually commiting a crime so now we have to make a crime to punish him.
     
  11. Guns and more

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    Who is going to decide what a "replica" is?

    School officials have shown they have no common sense after suspending kids who drew a gun, (not from a holster, on paper) or pointed a finger, or brought a G.I. Joe rifle 2" long.
    Why would you trust any public official?
    Don't trust anyone making more laws. We don't need more laws.

    When I was 5yrs. old, I wore my Roy Rogers cap guns everywhere, nobody shot me.
     
  12. Rail Driver

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    When you wore your Roy Rogers cap guns around everywhere, it was probably at least 50 years ago unless those cap guns were hand me downs from an older sibling or family member...

    Carry of firearms (not toys) was looked at a little differently back then according to what I've been reading. Disciplining kids was looked at a little differently too... Now you risk going to jail for a simple spanking in the parking lot. Why do you think society is in the crapper and we're even discussing this topic? Because TOO MANY parents don't know, don't care, and refuse to raise their children properly, and they would rather let the state raise their kids. (Public school, public day care, welfare, jail, etc)
     
  13. rattletrap1970

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    I'm sure that law will be VERY effective. Just like the gun free zone laws. I mean, the sign says gun free zone right? I'm sure no one will carry, even criminals. Look, if you carry a fake gun because you want to feel safe you are dumb. If you carry one because you are going to use to to threaten or rob people, somehow I don't think a law being made is going to stop you.
     
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