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More Attic Guns Part 3

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Norton Commando, Apr 21, 2011.

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  1. Norton Commando

    Norton Commando Member

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    Here are two more guns from the attic. One is a Peabody black powder cartridge carbine and the other appears to be a Springfield flintlock. Does anyone have a better idea of what the flintlock gun is? Perhaps a Brown Bess? I'm open for suggestions as to what this particular gun is.

    Thank you,

    Jason

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  2. BHP FAN

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    I'd keep them all...
     
  3. CSArtilleryman

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    The flintlock is DEFINITELY not a Brown Bess. The Bess had NO barrel bands, and normally had a round-faced lock. I'm no real expert, but it looks to be a 1795 Springfield musket. The 1795 was the first standardized and official model of musket made for the US government, the first made by a US arsenal, and the first model of firearm made by the Springfield Armory.
     
  4. CSArtilleryman

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    BTW, that is an abominable flint. As a matter of fact, I don't know if I'd even call it a flint. Throw it out and get you a good one-Dixie Gun Works carries musket flints.
     
  5. Jaymo

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    The hammer looks French. Could definitely be American.
     
  6. Malamute

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    My first thought was a French Charleville musket. The US used them in the War of Independance, and I believe may have copied them for production here, as was mentioned.
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

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    I think the musket is a U.S. musket, which in itself a copy of the later Charleville muskets.
     
  8. Norton Commando

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    Thanks all for the leads and information. Yeah, I know the "flint" is way off, more like a rock.

    I think I've got some more riffles somewhere; I'll post them when found.

    Jason
     
  9. arcticap

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    That Peabody carbine looks really nice.
    What's the chambering or caliber?

     
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  10. Norton Commando

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    Hi arcticap,

    What's the chambering or caliber?

    That's a good question. Years ago I made a sulfur mold of the chamber and it measured 0.462" at the bullet-end. The casing area measured 0.510" near the neck and 0.520" near the flange.

    I was going to shoot this gun but never got around to buying bullets. So it's still as mystery as to what ammunition fits this particular Peabody.

    Regards,

    Jason
     
  11. Dave Markowitz

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    I think that's a US 1795 musket. Concur on a new flint, that one is way too thick. Also, the flint should be wrapped in a leather or lead pad.

    The Peabody is simply gorgeous. If that's the original finish, it's in amazingly good condition.
     
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    I don't think the flint is a brown bess, most of them had brass parts, especially the buttplate. It doesn't look like there is any brass on the flint, IMO.
     
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    It's definitely not a Brown Bess. Besses did not have barrel bands, the barrel was pinned to the stock.
     
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    I think if you turn that flint around so that the sharp end is facing the frizzen, with the blunt end in the jaws, it should work fine. It does need to be held by lead or leather so it won't fall out and be incorrectly replaced, as it appears to have been some time in the past.
     
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