More Gonzales-"Don't need more guns on campus"

[News Shooter]

By TIM TALLEY
Associated Press Writer


OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Wednesday that having more guns on college campuses is not the way to prevent campus violence like the massacre at Virginia Tech.

Since the April 16 shootings that left 33 people dead, including the gunman, at Virginia Tech, some have suggested that the carnage might have been lower if a student or professor with a gun had stepped in.

"I don't think that is the answer quite frankly," said Gonzales, who was participating in a governor's task force to study safety and security on Oklahoma college campuses.

Instead, authorities should enforce existing laws concerning the ownership and use of handguns, he said.

"We can't guarantee complete security," Gonzales said. "We need to see what we can do as a government - on the federal level, on the state level - to ensure the safety of our students."

He said the government also needs to work closely to make campuses safe while still respecting individual freedoms and privacy.

"In a society where we really value individual freedom and respect privacy we're also concerned about public safety," Gonzales said.

The task force, which included discussions among law enforcement, mental health and higher education officials, focused on getting and sharing information about possible campus risks and how to respond to a campus attack.

"Is there additional information that we need with respect to individuals who may pose a threat to society?" Gonzales said.

In response to the shootings, Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine signed an executive order requiring that anyone ordered by a court to get mental health treatment be added to a state police database of people barred from buying guns.

The Virginia Tech gunman, Seung-Hui Cho, had been judged a danger to himself by a court in 2005. But he was not added to the database because he was not committed to a hospital, instead he was ordered to get outpatient mental-health treatment.

Gonzales said authorities should know whether a mentally ill student may be prone to violence but their privacy rights should also be protected to avoid discouraging them from seeking treatment.

"We know that treatment is very, very effective," he said.

Federal officials must work closely with states to prevent and respond to threats, Gonzales said. "They know best what the problems are, and they know best what the solutions are," he said.

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[Henry Bowman]

"We can't guarantee complete security," Gonzales said. "We need to see what we can do as a government - on the federal level, on the state level - to ensure the safety of our students."

You can stay out of the way of letting us defend ourselves is what you can do!

 

[DoubleR]

"We can't guarantee complete security," Gonzales said. "We need to see what we can do as a government - on the federal level, on the state level - to ensure the safety of our students."

How about allowing folks to protect themselves?

 

[Car Knocker]

He said the government also needs to work closely to make campuses safe

A cursory look at history would make it obvious that the government can't make anything safe.

 

[DigitalWarrior]

"Is there additional information that we need with respect to individuals who may pose a threat to society?" Gonzales said.

I really hate this guy. A lot.

STOP SPYING ON ME!!!

 

[romma]

Do these people even think about their contradictory statements? Whew!

 

[Siderite]

Link?

I'm writing a letter to my campus administration and would like to provide a citation for Gonzales' quote on "We can't guarantee complete security"

Would someone post the link to the original article?

Thanks,
Siderite

 

[News Shooter]

Link

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CAMPUS_VIOLENCE_GONZALES?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

 

[Scanr]

Now this dolt has got to go!!!

I could care less about the firing of the federal prosecutors. He's now getting personal. You would think this guy would be smart enough to keep his mouth shut for awhile till the smoke clears.:banghead:

 

[El Tejon]

So allowing people to protect themselves is not the answer, Gonzo?

Al, is anyone armed in your office? http://www.usdoj.gov/

It is the height of hyprocrisy for a man surrounded by men with guns, a man who commands his own army of men with guns, guns that the taxpayers purchased for Mr. Gonzo, to suggest that others cannot protect themselves with their own non-governmentally procured firearms.

 

[geekWithA.45]

The man's fit to govern morons.

That would not be us.

 

[Outlaw Man]

Instead, authorities should enforce existing laws concerning the ownership and use of handguns, he said.

Uhm, that's exactly what we're suggesting, Al. The existing law allows students to carry handguns in class and use them in defense of their life. Authorities (VT administration) had chosen to not enforce this law.

"In a society where we really value individual freedom and respect privacy we're also concerned about public safety," Gonzales said.

Excuse me while I die laughing.

 

[obxned]

It's people like this that give brain donors a bad name!

 

[Flyboy]

Just another damned statist in an administration full of 'em. I never thought I'd see the day when I'd wish for a return to Ashcroft. If you'll excuse me, I feel the need to

 

[sm]

"We can't guarantee complete security," Gonzales said. "We need to see what we can do as a government - on the federal level, on the state level - to ensure the safety of our students."

Gonzales is guaranteeing the Right to Work for criminals , and guaranteeing job security for criminals, law enforcement, EMTs, emergency rooms, operating rooms, hospitals, morgues, crematoriums, funeral homes, burial plots, condolence cards , flowers, tissues, ....

Less Gov't meddlin'.
Gov't needs to do as outlined in COTUS.
This Guaranteeing business is killing We The People.

 

[bamawrx]

OK, now I'm against Gonzo. I have ignored the other complaints as most likely from political hate bush types, which tend to be part of the moonbat crowd. But, this is it, and we need him gone now.

 

[F4GIB]

Another "affirmative action" moron. Do you think he'd have gotten where he is if his last name was Smith? I wonder what his law school class rank was. 1st? 2nd? 355th?

He undercuts the outstanding performance of every Hispanic person who is qualified. Unless you work right next to them, how can you tell?

 

[TallPine]

"We can't guarantee complete security," Gonzales said.

"But we can guarantee," he added, "that you will be completely defenseless."

 

[Geister]

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Wednesday that having more guns on college campuses is not the way to prevent campus violence like the massacre at Virginia Tech.

Well, technically this is true. You can't prevent someone from initiating violence, HOWEVER you can shoot the guy when he does. Hell, if he knows some people are armed it might just be a deterrant.

Either way, Gonzales is stomping his feet on thin ice.

 

[hoji]

The man's fit to govern morons.

That would not be us.
__________________

Unless of course you voted for his boss

 

[Selfdfenz]

As this is the man many think W would have on the Supreme Court. Scary!
We might as well have Sarah Brady.



S-

 

[Pilgrim]

Never before has a man spoken so much and said very little.

Pilgrim

 

[Soybomb]

I'm surprised he even remembered what happened weeks ago.

 

[Standing Wolf]

We should have voted for Cheney.

 

[Archer1945]

Maybe Gonzales should take a little walk over to the Treasury Department. Someone asked the Secret Service several years back if they could guarantee nobody could kill the President, this was after changes in tactics after the attack on President Reagan. Their comment was, 'we will do absolutely the best we can but there is no way to stop someone who really wants to kill the President'. If the best security people in the world with a virtually unlimited budget say someone who really wants to get the President will be able to how can Gonzales, or anyone else for that matter, honestly say they can protect everyone on a college campus, or any other school/facility. I wonder how many colleges are willing to spend several millions of dollars for security measures plus have trained snipers on all sides of nearly every roof on campus. I know that scenario is a bit far-fetched but basically that is what Gonzales and his ilk are saying, they can do for any college student what the Secret Service can't guarantee for the President.

I wonder what the alumni associations would say when informed the money endowed to the school for educational purposes would now be used to turn campuses into fortresses second only to Alcatraz or Fort Knox.