Mosin Nagant - Am I the only one who does NOT like these?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Quoheleth, Oct 16, 2011.

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Mosin - Love, Like or Leave?

Poll closed Nov 15, 2011.
  1. Love the Mosin - will not be without at least one.

    131 vote(s)
    36.3%
  2. Like the Mosin - take it or leave it.

    141 vote(s)
    39.1%
  3. Leave it - nothing good to say about it.

    89 vote(s)
    24.7%
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  1. Vaarok

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    I bought each of these shootable, serviceable, in several cases very accurate rifles, most over a century old and having been through a minimum of two wars for about $185 each.

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    And I dare say Mosins for all their simplicity do have some aesthetic appeal...

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  2. towboat_er

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    Great looking Mosin.
     
  3. sixgunner455

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    I would probably buy that last one, just to own that piece of wood.
     
  4. Robert

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    Yeah I do not get it either. Sticking to weapons of the same era there are just too many better options. Cheap is the last reason I buy somthing.
     
  5. Nushif

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    My only point of comparison here is the Lee Enfield ...

    But I am not a fan of the Mosin Nagant because it is simply not comfortable to me.
    It is incredibly long, both in stock and barrel, the bolt is much, muc harder to work and tends to stick more than my Lee Enfield and the rounds kicks much harder than the .303 which seems to do whatever job a rifle round ought to do just fine.

    I guess I see the appeal of the cheap rifle and cheap ammo, but I do not know enough people who do any actual training with them enough to actually make a difference.
    Cheaper to plink, sure, but in terms of battle rifle tasks ... When is the last time you saw a group of MN owners get together and practice what the rifle was supposed to do?
     
  6. sayak

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    "...the .303 which seems to do whatever job a rifle round ought to do just fine... When is the last time you saw a group of MN owners get together and practice what the rifle was supposed to do?"

    I don't think you'll find any "mad minute" competitions with the MN. It is just not as slick and shootable as the Enfield.
    In my observation; having owned an MN and now owning two LEs, there is no comparison. And remember, it wasn't that many years ago that LEs were as cheep (comparatively) as MNs are now.
     
  7. BananaClip

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    Interesting how energy is used in trying to figure out other peoples likes :confused: ... I'm a firearm enthusiast, I like ALL things to do with firearms... There's a reason why certain guns are always talked about...
    The Mosin is obviously good for many, many reasons... For me, I love the recoil... Reminds me to eat my Wheaties.....:D Just the whole thing about a projectile shooting out of barrel is AWESOME!!:)
    All depends on application of the firearm and financial situation..
    I "once" had a friend that was SO angry at me cause I was SO content with an SKS that costed $1000 less than his AR... He ended up selling that $1300 AR and I still have that "cheap" SKS that I still have such a "BLAST" shooting today... Now he has a $2000 gun and still not satisfied...:(
    I have piston AR's, AK's, SKS's and a Mosin M44... I love the AK's...:eek:
    For me it's about the History, Reliability, Simplicity, Price, Collector Value, Parts Availibilty and last but not least Accurracy...

    By the way, killer Mosin's Vaarok!
     
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  8. nathan

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    Just think of it as an advance form of musket using a powerful smokeless cartridge.
     
  9. RNB65

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    The bolt on my 91/30 is so hard to cycle, I could probably maintain a faster rate of fire with a musket. :)
     
  10. Quoheleth

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    I find it interesting that the love it and hate it answers are almost even, and combined they approximately equal the take it/leave it answer.

    Thanks, all who have contributed to this conversation. You have helped me set a personal record - a member since March 2007 with over 2800 posts and this is my first thread that has gone more 4 pages. My day is already made. I guess I should go back to bed now so I don't disappoint myself the rest of the day :neener:

    Have a good 'un, y'all!

    Q
     
  11. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    My stock thread is the largest I've had... a full 10 pages! lol. I love the Mosin Nagant. No doubt about that.
     
  12. Sav .250

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    For some reason known only to "Nagant" owners , this rifle has a cult like following. Maybe it`s the price. J s/n.
     
  13. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    For me, price really wasn't the factor. I handled the rifle before I bought, liked the way it felt, and bought it. Now I want a M91/30.
     
  14. nathan

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    This thread is closed, lol. The love of the Mosin musket is very much alive. Still in active duty here in America and elsewhere .
    One caveat, if you find a like new Polish M 44, grab it for its the best made carbine amongst the makers. Unfortunately they are few and priced higher.
     
  15. Coal Dragger

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    I can take or leave the Mosin. I do not own one, but my father does (M44 never issued as far as we can tell). I have shot it a fair amount, and frankly I am not impressed.

    The only thing they have going for them is the fact that they are cheap to buy. Would anyone here pay $800.00 for one? Maybe for a SAKO rebuilt Mosin (I understand those can be quite nice).
     
  16. Fastcast

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    My buddy bought one. I've shot and looked his over enough to know I no longer have any, zilch, zero interest in one, even at $90

    Put me in the don't get it crowd too.....Crude to say the least!

    The Mosin love is exactly why I don't put much value in internet reviews anymore.

    Mosin Nagant = Something only a mother could love! :scrutiny:
     
  17. mortablunt

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    So, are you willing to part with it?
     
  18. bearfoot

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    I don't own one, but I'd like to eventually get one for the following reasons: historically significant, cheap, fun, some are very accurate.

    What I can't understand is why anybody would waste the energy to hate on this or any rifle. So it's not for you - move on. I'd be much more interested in discussing what you love.
     
  19. Cosmoline

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    Shot a Finn M39 before you condemn the whole breed.
     
  20. Dunkelheit

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    No rifle deserves to be hated.

    I just don´t care about Mosins.
     
  21. UpTheIrons

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    Q,

    You know why I sold mine - I had much the same experience as you. I don't really hate 'em, but I have much better things to spend my money on.

    It was a fun little fling while it lasted, but I'm glad I got out of mine what I paid for it when it found a new home.
     
  22. gym

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    I'm sorry but even though I don't care for it, that's none of my business why someone would like or dislike anything. I just can't understand why anyone would buy dozens of them. Being that the door was opened by photographing them, I don't think it's out of line to ask Why?
    Perhaps one could be so kind as to explain the thought process behind this.Is there perhaps something I am not aware of, are they going to appreciate? maybe I should buy some? I wouldn't enjoy lugging around such a large heavy weapon, unless there were reasons that one might expand upon that I aparantlly am not aware of.No ill intent here, just a curiosity as to the compulsion with this old rifle?
    GYM
     
  23. oldpapps

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    My son recently bought one.
    Now I remember why I got rid of the one I had back in the mid 70s.
    Hate, no, just no use for them.

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  24. wojownik

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    Gym - I can't speak for others, but my hobby at one point was trying to collect a sampling of Mosins from each arsenal, each major variant (91, 91/30, M44, M38, etc) and different nations (Tsarist Russia, Soviet, Finn, Polish, Austrian, Czech, Hungarian...). Got pretty far with that goal, but Mosin prices started to creep up (especially for the less-common stuff). But why Mosins at all? Besides the fact that I like firearms of just about every type, I have a lot of historical interest in the the region, from WW1 though the Cold War.

    I also have a US collection that spans back to an 1855 Springfield Musket, 1861 Springfield, 1878 Trapdoor, 1903s, 1903A3s, 1917s, m1 Garands and M1 Carbines of different manufacturers and eras (ww1 and Korea). Below is a photo of some of those... Again, why collect all these... they represent rifles that have some intellectual interest, some functional interest, some emotional interest...

    Also, for those who might be budget-constrained, but still want to build some kind of "themed" colletion, Mosins do represent the opportunity to build an interesting collection.

    Also, I enjoy shooting the Mosin even for its deficiencies. I like the ridiculously long length of the M1891. The Mosin bolt is an odd but fascinating design - definitely not superior to later rifles or even its peers from the 1890s, but interesting nonetheless. I like the rifles' kick (except for the M44, which I noted before). I have found it to be surprisingly accurate (most examples, but definitely not all). It's just a quirky rifle that many find charm in. Many don't. I also greatly enjoy blackpowder shooting with muskets. I like long rifles. Probably some Freudian thing, but let's take the High Road and leave that alone, shall we? :)

    Again, if you don't like Mosins, or are just indifferent, then these might just be big ugly stick to you. Fair enough, can't argue with that. But to some collectors, the represent different aspects of history from a specific region. If you are looking for a shooter, they might not be your cup of tea. If you are into tacticoolery, they are definitely not your cup of tea.

    Anyways, here are some of the rifles I have in my "U.S.A" collection. Feel free to question why anyone should collect a bunch of these too, I don't mind...

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    I have a buddy who was into collecting Krags. Wish I had the bucks for that. Another big, ugly rifle with a number of deficiencies. But they don't seem get the amount of vitriol we see on threads like this. :D
     
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  25. Slamfire

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    The Mosin is a 1880's design. It is not as refined as later actions, positively clunky in many respects, but it does go bang.

    I took a M27 Finn deer hunting, killed one deer with it. So it works but there are better choices.
     
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