Mosin-Nagant gets attention

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I have a buddy who is seriously into the C&R guns and has been going on about his Mosin-Nagant rifle forever. So we finally go to the range and bring it along. He pulls out this shorter barreled (maybe an M-44? I don't know) version and hands me one of the 7.62x54R cartridges which I'd never seen before and all I could think of was a .30-06 cartridge.

Well at least my buddy had the decency to warn me about this cannon before he touched off the first round (indoor range mind you).

BOOOOOOM! I'm not prone to jumping but it startled the hell outta me and I see EVERY other shooter along the line suddenly step back and look over at us to see what the hell had happened. Later as we were packing up to go the guy next to us said he thought that we'd had a gun blow up on us.

Had fun though :D
 
Yeah, the M-44 certainly gets attention.... so does a ruined MN I got for (basically) free that has a 17" barrel now. That hurts my ears if I just wear plugs OR muffs....
 
Hah, when my C&R arrives this will be the first thing I buy. My buddy thinks his K98 is the end of the line when it comes to powerful milsurps.

Is 7.62x54 really that much worse than .30-06?
 
If it had a folding bayonet, it was an M44. If it was short, but didn't have a bayonet, it was an M38.
Either way, Mosin-Nagants are fun.
Here's my M44.
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Is 7.62x54 really that much worse than .30-06?
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With that short barreled rifle...yup! I've fired a good amount of .30-06 and that x54R really caught me off guard.

Although now that I think about it, I've never fired .30-06 on an indoor range.
 
7.62x54r is alittle more powerful than .308. The M44 is light and short so recoil is hugh and muzzle flash is awesome.

But the Steyr Mannlicher 95/30 weights even less and shoots a bigger round 8x56r I can only get about 10 shoots through mine before my sholder starts screaming. It kicks harder than ANYTHING ELSE I've shot. Shotguns, .30-06, mauser, mosins.

I love that muzzle flash at dusk.
 
I really like my little M38. I haven't shot it a dusk yet but when I do I will take a photo of it.


I would do it today, but we are having an ice storm here so I am staying inside. LOL...

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Shurrrrrrrre. I would pull the trigger and find myself about 10 feet from where I started. LOL... :D
 
i fired my friend's M44 from the hip, and i could actually feel the heat form the muzzel flash on my face...:what: i want one:evil:
 
When my father shot my M38 - first person besides myself shooting it - I sat behind him and at an angle. And I couldn't believe it, the muzzle blast was pounding even sitting THERE. It was stiff. And we're talking feet behind him, not inches.

And yeah, I've gotten that "What in sam hell is THAT!?" look from other shooters.
 
I love the m-38, my father has one, and I want it lol. When he got his M-38 I got my Yugo SKS. I love my SKS but ever since I shot the m38 I have been wanting one. Next gun show I am getting one.
A lot of power for under $100
One of my presents for my dads bday was a slip on pad for the m-38's butt because the butt of the m38 has steel on it. Old man gets a nasty bruise after 10 shots lol.
We shot it at our indoor range and the range is divided into 3 bays with 6-7 lanes into each bay well lets say people from the other bays come by to see what is going on.

My dad has some old memories with ol' Nagant. Back in Bulgaria when he was in high school long long time ago. In their senior year they had two weeks of "pre-army" training. All males go into the military after 18. So they shot Mosin's then, in the Army he had an Folding AK-47.

So when I took him to his first Gun Show in the US guess what he got?
An m-38

Damn I talk too much. LOL
 
The Russians seemed to have a propensity for making firearms that startle bystanders with thunderous reports and massive muzzleblast.

The Tokarev TT-33 pistol and the Mosin-Nagant M38 rifle both tend to get the same reaction at ranges, a wide-eyed "*** was that?!" from other people down the line.
 
I always get a kick (pun only partially intended :) ) out of shooting my M44 late in the day, just before dark, when you can really see the fireball. I took mine hunting a few times and have killed a deer with it. My buddy was razzing me about it one time after he saw the fireball. I told him it was made that way on purpose so that you could kill and roast the deer all at once.

Being the cheap bastards that they were, I think the Russians figured they could combine the functionality of a carbne rifle and a flamethrower into one weapon.

Mine has become a safe queen. The recoil is just too unpleasant and the accuracy isn't what I'd like it to be. I'll stick with my M28s and my M39.
 
I shot mine in an indoor range a few years ago.

I packed up and went upstairs into the store, and everybody turned and looked at me.

Turns out my M44 was rattling the windows and causing merchandise to fall off hooks and shelves.
 
But the Steyr Mannlicher 95/30 weights even less and shoots a bigger round 8x56r I can only get about 10 shoots through mine before my sholder starts screaming. It kicks harder than ANYTHING ELSE I've shot. Shotguns, .30-06, mauser, mosins.
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Yup. I can shoot banian all day from a Mosin carbine, no problem. But with that magnum-level ball out of a little Mannlicher straight pull, all bets are off. Look at what it chronos to:

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.melchar/8x56r/surp.html

THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED ft. lbs! Out of a tiny carbine! It's actually the single most potent rifle cartridge of the WWII era, at least this side of the anti-tank rifles.
 
Ah, the power of the MN.... :)

My younger brother was the first to purchase the fabled MN. His was an M38, and we were duly impressed by the long cartridge and short barrel. My two youngest brothers are twins, so for the first time taking one of them shooting, we drove up into the hills to let loose and have a "blast". :)

So as we're getting up to the area we're going to shoot in, we're noticing a lot of snow on the ground. We make it up to our "pit", and there's about a foot to eighteen inches of snow on the ground depending on where you stand. No biggie, makes finding the brass easier...

So after we've been shooting for a while, the youngest (about 16 years old) decides he wants to try the "cannon". No problem. He's fired smaller caliber rifles before, etc. but for some reason forgot to take a stance with his right leg back. Yep. feet perpendicular to the line of fire. Right under his shoulders. I was about to say something, when *BOOOM*.... And younger brother is now flat on his back, in a foot of snow, with the rifle pointing straight into the air. And myself, my other brother, and Dad are laughing hysterically.

If only I'd had a video camera.......
 
Shot my brother's M-44 a few weeks ago. We were using military surplus loads and the thing echoed across the entire valley we shot it in. Huge difference between it and my full-length mosin. What I noticed most was that on the full length mosin, my left ear was far enough from the muzzle so that it wasnt anything more then a loud shot, but on the M-44 the barrel is so short that my ear was ringing and painful after a few shots. Probably a good idea to use ear protection next time.
 
The M44 is light
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Compared to what? The gun weighs over 8.5 lbs, unloaded, that's heavier than most deer rifles. I've only shot Brown Bear 203 grain soft points through mine, but I thought the recoil wasn't as bad as my 30-06 Savage 116 off a bench designed for someone smaller than my 6'1'' frame. It's a fun gun to shoot, more accurate than my Yugo SKS, and recoil isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's also gun that drew noise complaints from others at the range.
 
So when I took him to his first Gun Show in the US
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Now that is a story arc. From the Bulgarian Army to a gun show in America.

There were three guys in the lane to my left a few outings back, shooting one of those short Mosins. Two twenty-year-olds and an older man I took to be the father of one or both. It was amusing to watch them cringe when they weren't the shooter, just a bystander. Can you develop a flinch just from watching? That Mosin carbine would do it if anything could.
 
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