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Mosin Nagnat appeal

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by jbkebert, Feb 16, 2009.

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  1. jbkebert

    jbkebert Member

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    I am starting to wonder if I am the only one on this forum that does not own a Mosin Nagnat. What is the appeal of this rifle? I guess for the money it would be a good cheap gun. Are they accurate to any degree?
     
  2. coloradokevin

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    I also don't own one. Still, I suppose that part of the appeal probably comes from the idea of getting a decent new-ish rifle for under $100.

    I've heard that the accuracy is reasonable from these guns, and I have more than one friend who has owned one as a first gun!
     
  3. cbrgator

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    Cheap Gun. Cheap Ammo. Accurate enough.
     
  4. WardenWolf

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    1. It's cheap.

    2. It's accurate if you buy one with a good barrel.

    3. It'll down anything in North America with ease.

    4. It's reliable.

    5. Did I mention it's a cheap high-power rifle?
     
  5. Funderb

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    mine is quite accurate, fun to shoot. I have a 91/30 and m44, the 91/30 is preferred, because it is easier on the recoil.
    definitely worth the money.
     
  6. sharkhunter2018

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    What's not to like. Dirt cheap rifle that shoots dirt cheap ammo. Find one with a good bore and it'll be plenty accurate for most needs. I should also mention they are fun to shoot. And if you get a carbine model, those are a blast to shoot...no pun intended of course:D
     
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    ive only owned one a couple of weeks.

    the only other rifles ive owned have been upper end semiautos.

    i havent really been interested in anything that couldnt shoot sub moa (lately), but this mosin has really grown on me. my last trip to the range i was able to shoot some playing card sized groups at 50yds with the standard sights.

    i think its the power. the backstop dirt really flies, its a cannon compared to the ar15's, ak's, sks's, and mini14's ive been shooting.

    i might be going out on a limb here, but i would dare to say its the most powerful, best performing rifle you can get for the money (three times over)
     
  8. expvideo

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    -It's cheap ($70-110 on average)
    -The ammo's cheap ($80 for 440 rnds)
    -The ammo is powerful enough to kill anything that breathes in the entire western hemisphere
    -It is probably the single most reliable weapon platform ever created by man
    -It is also one of the simplest weapons to operate
    -It is really easy to train new shooters to use in an emergency situation in a matter of minutes
    -It is relatively lightweight
    -It is incredibly durable
    -It is somewhat accurate
    -It can be used as a blunt weapon, tent pole, hammer, oar, or piece of firewood in a pinch
    -Did I mention it's cheap?
     
  9. Thingster

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    Allright, I agree with everything that has been said so far except for this part:

    Since when is 9-10 lbs "relatively light weight" in a .308/30-06 equivalent platform? If we were looking at a 7-8lb gun I'd agree, but that extra couple of pounds really adds up in a hurry, especially if you're hoofing it for any distance.


    I bought one as a truck gun. Something that could get rained on, beat around on, and I really wouldn't be out anything if it got stolen. In that capacity it does great, except I have a 91/30 which can be a bit of a handful. I want to pick up another 91/30 and do a "91/59" to it, but more extreme. Instead of knocking it back to 20", i want to take it all the way back to 16.5 to have as light and quick handling of gun as possible in decently powerful cartridge.
     
  10. jbkebert

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    I was thinking of a rifle to keep in the scabbard on the tractor seems to fit the bill.
     
  11. expvideo

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    My M38 is a 7-8lb gun. It handles quickly enough, and it spits a 4" fireball because the barrel isn't long enough to burn all of the powder, so I don't know if it's really worth it to chop it down to 16.5". But whatever floats your boat. Keep in mind that the shorter the barrel gets the more it kicks, and my M38 kicks like a mule.
     
  12. PTK

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    I've been known to give them out as "first" guns to more than a few folks. :)
     
  13. Todd1700

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    What's not to love? You can get an arsenal refurbished Mosin Nagant in virtually new condition for 100 bucks or less out the door. Where else can you get a perfectly functional like new rifle that fires a round powerful enough to kill anything on the North American continent (and most things on the planet) for under 100 bucks? Sure you aren't going to win a benchrest competition with one of them but most are easily accurate enough for hunting purposes. And for the money some people spend on a dedicated benchrest scope/rifle combo you could buy 10 or more Mosins. For plinking there is still tons of cheap surplus ammo out there. I could go shoot 440 rounds of surplus 7.62x54r for a little more than it would cost you to buy 3 boxes of shells for a 270 or 7mm mag in some places. And for hunting there are plenty of choices out there as well.

    Once you buy one and visit a few forums dedicated to those who collect them then you discover just how many different variants exist. Izhevsk or Tula made recievers, Round or hex reciever, 91/30s, 91/38s/ 91/44s. Russian models, Chinese models, Polish models, sniper versions etc, etc, and of course the best and most accurate Mosins the Finnish models like the M27, M28, M28-30 and M39. Collecting them becomes an addictive disease called Mosinitis.
     
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    Is that like an inflamation of your Mosin?
     
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    I sold both of mine to a friend..those old beat up sticks shot pretty good.. but I knew were incapable of being decent weapons without bubbaing them so I just sold them off.. hopefully I can get an unissued unfired finnish m39..by tikka or sky.. probably run me around $600 dollars.. would be a jewel to go with my bnz steyr k98.

    However if anyone wants a big bore plinker.. theres nothing better then those $69 dollar sticks...
     
  16. Todd1700

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    Well the Tikka would run you that much because it's highly collectable. But an unissued VKT or B Barrel M39 can be had for much less and shoot just as accurately. Have you looked here? http://www.gunsnammo.com/
     
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    Well, not everybody likes the same things.

    Once I got the chamber really clean on my faux sniper, the action smoothed right up. It shoots where I aim it, and with ammo it likes mine will shoot 3 shots in a 1" square at 100 yards, on occasion. To use the scope is different than most sporting optics I have used.

    I presently own two of them, one of which I rarely shoot, it is an older hex receivered version.

    I am finding here at this stage of my life that slow fire, methodical aiming and practice, is having the greatest beneficial effect on my marksmanship. Shooting 60 rounds of $.07 apiece ammo for $4.20 with great precision is a bargain, compared with a $10 to $15 dollar magazine full of AR15 rounds, which for some unknown reason I tend to expend rapidly.

    The older hex receivered version has arsenal repairs to the wood forend. It is a 1930's Izzy. I don't know for certain but I suspect that the repairs were due to bayonet usage. Sometimes when I hold it in my hands I wonder how many times it was dropped and reissued in its service to the Soviet Union?

    These are relics of a monumental struggle, the likes of which I cannot imagine. All for less than a Century Note.

    My $.02.
     
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    Anyone that can afford them would be better served buying 10 of these rifles than another M4 for SHTF. If the SHTF, being able to arm the people around you will be much more useful than another black rifle. Just my $.02
     
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    I think the Mosin-Nagant is by far the best looking milsurp, and that sporters made from them are really good looking. The shape of the magazine/trigger guard shows real style, and with a bit of 'softening', my project Mannlicher stocked M-N will be a real beauty...
     
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    It's basically the cheapest way into a high-power rifle. That alone makes it worth looking into.

    In addition, it's a fun piece of history, it's accurate enough to hunt with in the longer-barreled versions, and the carbines are great fun to shoot with their excessive fireballs, giant bayonets, huge muzzle blast, and healthy recoil.
     
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    I have two.
    A 1936 Tula , Finnish capture , 91/30 and a 1945 M44 Izhevsk.
    Very hardy battlerifles , not really made as MOA rifles but more of MO-Man.

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  22. jbkebert

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    A couple of fine looking rifles you have there.

    I am not looking for a SHTF gun or a evil black rifle could care less. I just want something that is pretty cheap to shoot. I have several high powered rifles from a .243 to a .375 H&H. The Mosin seems like a perfect blend of function, price and decent accuracy. I think I'll start looking around for one. Thanks for all of you input.
     
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    How about the history

    I love the guy that sold the Moisin because it was "incapable of being a decent weapon".

    The German army at Stalingrad probably disagree. The guns have a fair bit of history, the cartridge even more. It's the oldest military cartridge still in use.

    Also pretty impervious to abuse.
     
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    wow just reading about the ammo and price of the gun itself makes me want to get one just for the hell of it. i can use another experimental deer rifle. i saw one at the local gun shop, the finish was rough and action stiff so i wasn't interested but never looked at the price. are there various brands? a better brand? yes they are popular site at the range.
     
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