Well it was nice wile it lasted . It is now fireing both barrels at once . Not sure what is wrong with it or what I am going to do with it . Any ideas . I have only about 2000 rounds though it . Once it is fixed , it's going down the road . 
Mossberg Silver Reserve Report
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When you figure longevity into the equasion, a $1500 gun that will shoot 100,000 rounds without a problem, and hundreds of thousands with basic parts replacement, seems cheap.
Sorry to hear about it, though, RKellogg. Wish I could say I was surprised.
SKB's basic 505 model is a forever gun, for a grand or maybe a bit more, NIB. Best deal going, all things considered, IMO. (I have the nearly identical 500; it's 30 years old. Works great!)
http://www.skbshotguns.com/over-and-under/field/index.php
Worth a look. The 28 SKB is a favorite of a guy I know; he's a long, long time hunter and clay shooter. He has so many guns, he doesn't know how many there are in his house. If he has one, he has a hundred, and he's bought and sold many more over the years. So it's not idle praise when he really likes a gun. AFAIK he has one 28, and one 28/20 combo.
Worth a look. The 28 SKB is a favorite of a guy I know; he's a long, long time hunter and clay shooter. He has so many guns, he doesn't know how many there are in his house. If he has one, he has a hundred, and he's bought and sold many more over the years. So it's not idle praise when he really likes a gun. AFAIK he has one 28, and one 28/20 combo.
Smitty in CT
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Does it happen all of the time?? Can you get it to Double-Fire on pupose??
What did Mossebrg say?? Are they going to fix it, again??
When you sell, how much do you want?? What Guage is it??
Smitty
What did Mossebrg say?? Are they going to fix it, again??
When you sell, how much do you want?? What Guage is it??
Smitty
Smitty in CT :
So far it has doubled fired twice . Sorry to say I had a new shooter useing it when it happend . It was kind of funny to see the look on his face
. After the second time I put it away and let him use my 1100 .
I have not contacted Mosseburg yet . I was going to try and give it a good cleaning and try it again . I don't think it will work , but worth trying I geuss .
Once it is fix , I am going to sell it , I had some one offer me $425 with the skeet tubes , before it broke . It is a 12 gauge .
So far it has doubled fired twice . Sorry to say I had a new shooter useing it when it happend . It was kind of funny to see the look on his face
. After the second time I put it away and let him use my 1100 . I have not contacted Mosseburg yet . I was going to try and give it a good cleaning and try it again . I don't think it will work , but worth trying I geuss .
Once it is fix , I am going to sell it , I had some one offer me $425 with the skeet tubes , before it broke . It is a 12 gauge .
Smitty in CT
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If it was a new shooter, maybe they were "soft-shouldering" the gun. I have seen Citoris that you could "fan-fire", where they would fire on the return recoil from the first shot and it would happen so fast that it looked like a "double"...just a thought.
Sorry, If you were talking short money to get rid of it....I don't need one that bad, but if you were "just getting rid" of it. I can find "new" ones (without the tubes) for around that price
Smitty
Sorry, If you were talking short money to get rid of it....I don't need one that bad, but if you were "just getting rid" of it. I can find "new" ones (without the tubes) for around that price
Smitty
Native_omnivore
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Purchased one about 6 months ago. It is in route to the "Service Department" of Maverick Arms for the second time.
I reeeally like it's feel and performance in the field and on the range. BUT...after approximately 2500-3000 rounds at the range, the upper fireing pin failed.(broke) Shipped it back to "Maverick" firearms, they supposedly replaced 'both' pins. After only another 2500 rounds, the lower pin failed.
A phone call to Mossberg (Maverick Arms) and they have offered to send a "drop ship" tag, so I don't have to pay freight again, and promised a "one day" turn around in their facility. Also said that "KHAN", the Turkish manufacturer, had "totally redesigned" the fireing pins.
They are performing all repairs under the warranty, but I'm not sure that that compensates for the shoddy manufacturing. They have already informed me that they will not refund my purchase price, nor replace the gun.No matter how 'dissatisfied' I am.
I may keep it around just as a second field gun..
I reeeally like it's feel and performance in the field and on the range. BUT...after approximately 2500-3000 rounds at the range, the upper fireing pin failed.(broke) Shipped it back to "Maverick" firearms, they supposedly replaced 'both' pins. After only another 2500 rounds, the lower pin failed.
A phone call to Mossberg (Maverick Arms) and they have offered to send a "drop ship" tag, so I don't have to pay freight again, and promised a "one day" turn around in their facility. Also said that "KHAN", the Turkish manufacturer, had "totally redesigned" the fireing pins.
They are performing all repairs under the warranty, but I'm not sure that that compensates for the shoddy manufacturing. They have already informed me that they will not refund my purchase price, nor replace the gun.No matter how 'dissatisfied' I am.
I may keep it around just as a second field gun..
Smitty in CT
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Did you ship the gun back yet???
If not, is there any way you could get the firing pin out and take some pictures of it?? Then when you get the new one back, repeat the process.
That way everyone out there can see the difference between the "new" and the "old" firing pins. Or, see if they are "blowing smoke"....
I'm interested in one of the 20 & 28 Guage combos, especially if they have the firing pin problems fixed...
If not, is there any way you could get the firing pin out and take some pictures of it?? Then when you get the new one back, repeat the process.
That way everyone out there can see the difference between the "new" and the "old" firing pins. Or, see if they are "blowing smoke"....
I'm interested in one of the 20 & 28 Guage combos, especially if they have the firing pin problems fixed...
Smitty-
Have you checked out the SKB combo?
I have a friend with two of them, in different configurations, and he LOVES them for hunting, skeet, and SC. He has a good 100 shotguns, so when he picks one out and shoots it all the time, that means something.
I have a 20 Gauge SKB that's 30 years old and like-new. Love it, too.
They're not as cheap as the Mossberg, but they're a true bargain and they don't break.
Have you checked out the SKB combo?
I have a friend with two of them, in different configurations, and he LOVES them for hunting, skeet, and SC. He has a good 100 shotguns, so when he picks one out and shoots it all the time, that means something.
I have a 20 Gauge SKB that's 30 years old and like-new. Love it, too.
They're not as cheap as the Mossberg, but they're a true bargain and they don't break.
Smitty in CT
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ArmedBear said:
That's the problem, I don't have the money to buy all of the toys I WANT, I agree the SKB's are great. The Mossberg 20/28 Combo is $629.14!! at Buds Gun Shop: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=75254&x=14&y=1
The only problem is.....there is no way of telling if these guns were made before or after the firing pin change??? I wish there was a way to tell without tearing down the gun...
Smitty
Native_omnivore
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I'm looking at the SKB's and the Ruger Red Labels. I bought a youth model, single shot Bakal for the grandson, but their o/u shoulder like a club.."to me"
How many rounds on those pins Emoto??
How many rounds on those pins Emoto??
Baikals ARE clubs. Durable as clubs, but shoot like clubs. And not golf clubs, either.
The problem is, the Silver Reserve is not worth $621.
My used SKB 20 Gauge was well worth the $500 I paid for it.
A new SKB 505 is well worth the $1000 it costs. You won't get 28 Gauge, but who cares? If you can't afford to buy a decent 28, how can you afford to feed it?
20 works fine for me, and shoots the same. You can even shoot 3/4 oz. in it, if you want.
Now a Ruger 28 might be worth the hassle, since it's even slimmer and lighter. That's assuming that those are positive attributes, which would depend on your size and weight, and how you shoot. But I don't think it differs much in size and weight from a 20 Gauge SKB 505.
The problem is, the Silver Reserve is not worth $621.
My used SKB 20 Gauge was well worth the $500 I paid for it.
A new SKB 505 is well worth the $1000 it costs. You won't get 28 Gauge, but who cares? If you can't afford to buy a decent 28, how can you afford to feed it?
20 works fine for me, and shoots the same. You can even shoot 3/4 oz. in it, if you want.
Now a Ruger 28 might be worth the hassle, since it's even slimmer and lighter. That's assuming that those are positive attributes, which would depend on your size and weight, and how you shoot. But I don't think it differs much in size and weight from a 20 Gauge SKB 505.
Smitty in CT
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ArmedBear said:
I've worked out a deal with the club that I belong to.... I work for shells...
I work a couple nights a week and on the weekends and they let me shoot for free and I get to use whatever "cheapo" house ammo I can scrounge up.
That's the only way I've been able to get my 930 over 6,500 rounds...If it were my dime, I'd be closer to 500....
Ah, so you're spoiled!
Seriously, the 930 IS a legitimate bargain. Half the price of its competition, and from all I can tell, just as good. I sure like the way it handles, and have heard or seen not a single problem with the thing.
It's also an American-made Mossberg, not a Turkish-made gun with a Mossberg badge on it.
Be careful out there in the gun marketplace!
WRT shells, I'd consider sticking with 20 Gauge. They're cheap and readily available. If you don't have that arrangement in the future, you will have to pay far more for 28 shells than for similar 20s, or buy a reloading setup. And 20 Gauge hulls can be found for free at most any shotgun range; not so with 28s!
20/28 combo setups are rich mens' toys, realistically.
Seriously, the 930 IS a legitimate bargain. Half the price of its competition, and from all I can tell, just as good. I sure like the way it handles, and have heard or seen not a single problem with the thing.
It's also an American-made Mossberg, not a Turkish-made gun with a Mossberg badge on it.
Be careful out there in the gun marketplace!
WRT shells, I'd consider sticking with 20 Gauge. They're cheap and readily available. If you don't have that arrangement in the future, you will have to pay far more for 28 shells than for similar 20s, or buy a reloading setup. And 20 Gauge hulls can be found for free at most any shotgun range; not so with 28s!
20/28 combo setups are rich mens' toys, realistically.
New_geezer
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Baikals may be rough but they are not clubs. Every inexpensive O/U is going to be made with some compromises somewhere. Baikals might be rough in the cosmeticsa but their mechanics have a well deserved reputation for being rugged and durable. If you have to accept compromise, that's my preferred choice. And if you take your time and look around you can find some with very nice wood. Regardless though, some TLC can make even the roughest Baikal look pretty nice. Some might ask why buy a gun you have to turn around and work on - because you have more time than money.
I have no regrets about my 20 ga Baikal and have no problem recommending them to people on a budget.
"Club" refers to the balance and handling, not the cosmetics, in this case.
And yes, buying a 20 Gauge is one of the best ways to get decent handling from a gun that is otherwise club-like. Just don't get a 12.
Browning has also made a club or two, BTW. I'm not a snob about Baikals. And you're right, the 20 Gauge feels pretty good.
And yes, buying a 20 Gauge is one of the best ways to get decent handling from a gun that is otherwise club-like. Just don't get a 12.
Browning has also made a club or two, BTW. I'm not a snob about Baikals. And you're right, the 20 Gauge feels pretty good.
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