Most Accurate .45 ACP Revolver?

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ugaarguy, I'll know more about that when the figures roll in a couple of days. Then, I'll compare the cost of a standard 625, re-worked, and the cost of a 625JM. The 625 would be re-worked before it left S&W to save shipping costs. If it there is no real advantage, I won't do it.
 
ugaarguy, I'll know more about that when the figures roll in a couple of days. Then, I'll compare the cost of a standard 625, re-worked, and the cost of a 625JM. The 625 would be re-worked before it left S&W to save shipping costs. If it there is no real advantage, I won't do it.
 
I too think that a S&W 25-2 can't be beat.

However if you ever run across a Colt New Service, or a New Service Target in .45 ACP grab it.
You'll never be sorry and you'll have a gun different from everyone else on the block.
 
Might Hold Out for the Best Quality

After a chat with a S&W rep over the phone earlier this week, I believe I may hold out for a PC 625 Jerry Mikulek. I may have a long search for a new or used PC 625. Why? Well, the PC 625 is a hand-fitted gun and tuned. The other two models are not. The PC 625 has forged parts. The other two 625s have MIM parts. There is just not that much stock in MIM parts for a 'smith to do much with. Yes, the MIM parts fit more precisely than forged parts without tuning. Now I'll see how much patience I have.

Meawhile, I just might purchase a 25-2 for the range if I see one available in excellent condition.
 
Thanks, Joe. I called quite a few dealers in my state yesterday, but no luck so far. Camfour is the sole distributor for the PC 625 Jerry Mikulek. Two dealers checked an inventory sheet and told me Camfour doesn't even list it. (Last week the S&W rep told me Camfour was the sole distributor for the PC 625.) That is why I figure I should be patient. Meanwhile, I'll keep my eye peeled for a 25-2. What do you figure a new PC 625 will cost? BTW, if that is your PC 625 that's a beautiful gun. Did you change the grip?
 
The PC guns will be well over 900 bucks. On another board a while back there was post how the last of the PC JM was shipped from Camfour. Your choice now is scrounge boards and check gunbroker or auction arms! There is not a darn thing wrong with a 625 in either regular or JM main stream version. A nice trigger job will be a nice touch, and then you get it to the range and shoot! Quit key boarding and start shooting! I have had PC V Comp, and I sent it back for some trigger work. I was not impressed! I was more impressed by the local gunsmith's efforts on my other 625's!
 
The last PC 625 was shipped from Camfour? That would explain the reports from a couple of dealers of no inventory at Camfour. However, S&W still produces the gun. There is the possibility of a S&W Showcase dealer ordering a PC 625 directly from S&W, which one dealer said he might be able to do. Occasionally, I see a V-comp in a gun, but I really don't know anything about it. Please enlighten me what a V-comp is.
 
Plain Bone Stock 625

My 625 is bone stock .45ACP, like it so much I haven't decided to change anything yet - and I'm one of those guys who starts ordering parts before I have posession of the gun. I was going to have a smith slick the action just a little - it wasn't bad but it wasn't butter smooth, either - and didn't get around to it. I'm slicking it the hard way - shooting it over and over and over....:evil:
And though I wouldn't want to carry it all day (five inch barrel, full lug) it's a honey of a shooter when I'm doing my job. I know you can do better with custom jobs but I'm very satisfied with mine out of the box. :)

Oh, yeah... I do have a pair of Colt M1917 WWI revolvers, and you can't BELIEVE how slick those are! If they had better sights I'd be in hog heaven!
 
That turn line and the scratches towards the front of cylinder make me wonder about it's overall condition. At least the IDPA crowd will be happy - it's a 4"-er! Also, those multicolor Miculek stocks kept me disinterested in a PC627 a year or two back in .38 Super (My 625JM's Miculeks are pao ferro - quite nice looking and feeling.). Still, you can see the same front & rear sights on the 625JM. Some pluses for the PC JM 625: shorter cylinder, tapered barrel, and adjustable trigger stop. Whether any of these are 'worth' a dime, much less sum to the difference in cost existing between the two, is an individual choice. The 625JM's hammer and trigger are hard chromed - the trigger is solid, rather than hollow like the MIM parts... they may be the same as the PC parts - just hard chromed. I have to admit that I like the partial lug far better than my 625JM's full lug - but I have become accustomed to it. Besides, it does help keep the barrel down during recoil. If money were no option...

Stainz
 
Interesting. And so what is a V-comp all about?

A local dealer called me back today about the PC 625. He didn't have it, but agreed to contact Camfour, the sole distributor of the PC 625, and question the availability. I had told him that an S&W rep last week told me S&W still produced the gun and it appears on the S&W website. Camfour finally called the dealer hours later after he called today and insisted S&W no longer produced it. The dealer called S&W and waited three hours for a call-back of confirmation. The dealer called me later and finally cleared up the mystery about availability of the PC 625. It isn't. S&W has no plans to produce it again. John, your info was correct about that thread on another board that reported Camfour sold its last PC 625. But...the dealer also said the S&W rep would ask Camfour to survey where it sent these guns to find out if one is still occupying space in a display case collecting dust. I know, it's a slim hope, but a miracle might occur.:rolleyes:

Meanwhile, I'll canvas the gun shows and check the classifieds for awhile. I'll also look for a 25-2 while I'm at it. Often the journey is more interesting than the destination. However, In this case, the destination might be more interesting. I can see myself at the range with this gun in my hand.

I just might post a WTB on the classifieds, but I don't see many replies to those sorts of ads. Any suggestions?
 
I just couldn't keep the grips if I had the GunsAmerica gun mentioned in post #61.

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Everytime I'd pick it up I'd think I was milking a cow.





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Woah, those are some butt ugly grips!

I was shooting my 5 in 625 last night as I often do. It has to be my most accurate gun. On my second target I got four rounds into one ragged hole at 15 yards. Pretty good shooting if I do say so myself :p
 
BluesBear, I saw that PC 625 with the awful-looking grip a couple of days ago as well. Another one was also offered that had the more subdued gray laminate. But it sold just hours before I could capture it. I hope I don't weaken and get the other one. If I do, I'll have to order a new grip before it arrives and slap it on within moments after I open the package. I wonder who at PC thought that was attractive?

I'm so ready to get this gun. The other one that is nudging me is the 25-2. I let a couple of excellent ones slip by me over the past several days.

I told my wife I need a .45ACP revolver because I have 2,500 rounds of PSWC that my autoloaders don't like at all. I need a .45ACP wheel gun to make this inventory go away.
 
Get the 625JM, you can swap the grips and sell off the JM grips to offset the cost of the gun. The front site is user replaceable, thus you can go from Fiber Optic, Gold Bead, or Partridge with little effort. For get about the MIM, that is a non issue. But, the gun and quit keyboarding! Get out and shoot!
 
I've found that my 1917 Colt New Service was very capable of knocking down bowling pins at 100 yards... but for target shooting a 6 inch SW model 625 is hard to beat. Easier to find too.
 
I've also run into ads about the 625 that were produced in the past that were described as Model of 1988 or Model of 1989. Some were described as having no MIM parts and no trigger lock. Also, was the PC 625 JM ever produced with a 5" barrel? I received notice of one. I thought the PC 625 was only produced with a 4" barrel. Comment?
 
I've found that my 1917 Colt New Service was very capable of knocking down bowling pins at 100 yards... but for target shooting a 6 inch SW model 625 is hard to beat. Easier to find too.
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I do not think there has been a 625 produced in 6in ever! Now the 25-2 has been, perhaps that is what you meant?
 
Ops Officer, if you can get a 625 thats pre lock, and pre MIM at a decent price I'd go for it. You can always get the action tuned, and there are tons of competent S&W gunsmiths who can do it for you at a reasonable cost. The closer to the 40s and 50s a S&W was made the better the craftsmanship will be.
 
Model 1989 625 - We don't need no stinking safety!

I had to go touch mine just to make sure! No MIM parts (whew!):eek:
and there CERTAINLY isn't some (I spit) REVOLVER SAFETY :barf: on it.
It's nice, smooth, and not defiled by some heathen treachery.

*sigh* now my wife is going to insist I go to church this morning.... :banghead:
That's what I get for getting excited......
 
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I think this one ranks up there with one of the more accurate 45 ACP's. This is my best target with a pre-25 that was seriously worked over (not the hammer jeweling) with coke grips etc. That target has 50 shots at 15 yards in it all shot offhand.
 
However if you ever run across a Colt New Service, or a New Service Target in .45 ACP grab it.
You'll never be sorry and you'll have a gun different from everyone else on the block.
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I've got a New Service that I think was converted [badly] from .45LC to .45ACP, possibly in Mexico, since it was forcibly removed from a Mexican criminal in Chicago many years ago. At first I thought it was an M1917, but all of the details scream commercial New Service.

It keyholes on every shot. Any idea where I could get a .45LC cylinder? Also, any idea on how I can track down details via the serial number without paying an arm and a leg to Colt?

Thanks.
 
Peter, obviously you are quite comfortable with your pre-25. That's excellent. What happens when you stretch it to 25 yards? Do you compete with it?
 
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