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Most Accurate Bolt Gun for LEO Use

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by PFCLEE11B, Oct 12, 2013.

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  1. BSA1

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    Don't overlook that the rifle and scope are only PART of the system. The other important parts are premium ammunition that will consistently shoot sub-moa groups, the willingness of the shooter to practice regularly (At least once a month under all types of weather conditions) and since this is a small department the willingness to spend personal funds for the equipment, ammunition and time to achieve the necessary level of training.

    The margin of error for a police sharpshooter is 1" and you only have one shot to get the job done without injury to hostages.
     
  2. C-grunt

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    The last thing I would do on a scoped LE rifle is do it cheaply. Especially if you already have an AR.

    The minimum I would do is a Remington 700 LTR with a Vortex Viper PST and then have it professionally bedded and a good trigger installed.

    If you are in a situation where you can't make the shot with you AR, like a longer ranger hostage situation, you need a rifle that can thread a needle.
     
  3. The_Armed_Therapist

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    Accuracy out to 100 yards? Any bolt gun in .308 with 18-20" barrel will work. You won't need to be shooting any dimes, right?
     
  4. vaupet

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    If 100 yards is max range needed, I would think any bolt would shoot 'minute of bad-guy.

    FN SPR is very nice, build with LE in mind of the pre 64 winchester model 70 action with CRF (spr stands for special police rifle)
     
  5. gunnutery

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    I've got a Savage 10FP tactical in .308 pre-accutrigger. It does really well and I would recommend them. I offered to use mine for my department if they'd send me to the sniper/observer school. However I stipulated that the department reimburse me if I had to use it and it got seized by the state investigative agency. My cheif declined the opportunity.

    I don't know the full extent of your agency's AR usage or your policy on taking shots more than 100yds, but if you're looking at any other caliber, check out the Mossberg MVP that is able to use AR mags, that way in a pinch you could share ammo and mags. .223 at 100 yds will do the job, though in a more precise weapon I would prefer .308 too for extra barrier penetration.
     
  6. nastynatesfish

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    Why not a different caliber? If 100 yds is average. Why not a something low recoil and light. I built a 260 with a. 24" AAC barrel in a houge full block stock. Shoots 123s great and no recoil. I'd buy a savage. Triggers are great stock, aluminum bedding, and accurate
     
  7. Kachok

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    You probably don't NEED M24 level accuracy out to 1,000 yards. Just a cheap Savage 11 would do everything you would need. I have a Savage 110 30-06 I got for $386 NIB with a scope that shoots honest to God 1/2" groups with boring regularity using cheap soft point hunting bullets, at 200 yards I could pick which eye to shoot Mr Bad Guy through, do you really need more then that?
     
  8. taliv

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    anything that will hold 1" or better at 100 would be fine. you should know your limits. if you are in a hostage situation that requires you to keep a 2" or better group, you should probably NOT pull the trigger.

    i don't know anybody working on police salary that can afford the ammo to train enough to make shots like that, much less the cost of travel and class fees for competent instructors. even in a small dept, the liability of making a hostage shot with your one-off own weapon would seem prohibitive.


    btw, i've seen lots and lots of swat snipers shoot. if i'm ever in a hostage situation, just pay them the money! don't take the shot! even if the bad guy is 2 feet from me! thanks!
     
  9. SwissArmyDad

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    How about the new Mossberg mvp in 5.56 or .308?

    If 5.56 you could use your AR mags while on patrol if needed...
     
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    I would be inclined to say that the Savage Precision Carbine might be just what you're looking for. 20" heavy barrel, AccuTrigger, AccuStock (quite a bit nicer than any other synthetic stock Savage puts out), sub-MOA at 100, and comes in around $700 in either .223 or .308. Throw an SWFA of some flavor on top and a Harris underneath, and you'll have an excellent little rifle.
     
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    Remington SPS Tac. put it in a Bell an Carlson "light tac." stock and put a Super Sniper 3 by 9 to 40 FFP or low powered Trijicon or Leupold 1.5-5 and it make a fine patrol rifle..
     
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    Wow, so many things about this scenario of public employees using personal gear trouble me. Yes I know, it happens a lot. Until my retirement I worked in an under funded government position. But as has already been stated, usually there is an "approved" list, especially for things as potentially litigious as firearms. Usually the employer, through their attorney, has thought through these things. If not in your case, please exercise extreme caution. Who has YOUR back?
     
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    "Accuracy out to 100 yards? Any bolt gun in .308 with 18-20" barrel will work. You won't need to be shooting any dimes, right?"
    This x1000. Why would a police sniper need to do anything beyond what a proficient hunter does? 4" hit area. We're not talking shooting the hammer off the bad-guy's pistol at a hundred yards, while he's got a hostage wrapped around him, are we? :D

    Given the liability of any officer involved shooting (let alone an ordered strike) it seems highly irresponsible that a "good hit" would be reliant on anything other than basic skill. Same rules as hunting; no unethical (or "risky") shots

    Remington SPS 308 with a tougher ~200$ stock, and a respectable brand of 3-9X scope (or fixed, even). Easy, peasy, fool proof, and won't break anyone's bank.

    TCB
     
  15. itsa pain

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    yes sharing ammo and mags would be great if you are ambushed by thirty AK wielding criminals in Smalltown USA and an M60 with armor piercing bullets would be good if they are behind cover
     
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    yes if you are patrolling Kabul
     
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