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Most accurate rimfire

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by alman, Nov 28, 2012.

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  1. alman

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    What does everybody think ? $300.00 budget for a rimfire rifle (just the rifle) . What is the most accurate size rimfire cartridge(.22 , 22mag , 17 hmr etc..) for 100 yd bench shooting ?
     
  2. chad1043

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    I'm gonna vote Savage in 17 HMR... I don't own an 17, I do own a 22 mag. But for bench shooting I think the 17 would do better.
     
  3. Picher

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    I agree with Alman that the 17 HMR is the most accurate at 100 yards and that the Savage is a very accurate rifle.

    However, if you intend to compete, be sure that the caliber qualifies. Many matches are for only .22 LR.
     
  4. alman

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    I had a Savage 93G in 22 mag , loved it & the price it came for . It was the most accurate rimfire I have had personal experience with . I never shot a 17 . I agree , you cant go wrong with an accutrigger .
     
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    Take a look at Henry h001 series lever action. Very accurate gun.
    I own one in .22 and am very pleased with it.
     
  6. alman

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    Not competition , just want a really accurate fun gun .
     
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    I've never shot the .17's or the 22mag, but with some decent match ammo, 22lr has potential.

    I shot a 10 shot 1" group at 100yds with a 22lr cz452 using wolf mt target ammo last time I was out. put 5 rounds into a ragged hole at 50. federal auto match will put 10 inside 1" at 50. And it has nice lines and a fabulous trigger with just a little work. ($20 yodave kit and done) And I am not a great shot.
     
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    At 50yds a good .22LR will give a good .17 a run for the money. At 100yds, the .17 will beat it every time. The .22LR's accuracy just begins to unravel at around 75yds. A half-MOA at 50yds rifle quickly becomes a 3/4-1MOA rifle at 100yds. `Tis the nature of the beast. However, most view the .17HMR as strictly a field round. It is highly accurate but I really don't see the point in buying one for paper punching only. Frankly, it's quite boring. The .22LR is much more of a challenge and offers a lot more opportunities for tuning, trying different loads and experimentation. Shooting half MOA with a .17 is no big deal. Shooting MOA with a .22LR is an accomplishment.
     
  9. 3twelves

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    .17 can be very accurate.
     
  10. BCRider

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    .17 is also a LOT more expensive than .22LR. So for a budget minded solution I'd be looking at the Savage in .22LR as well. If they are primarily for target shooting the paper won't care.

    We're using the single shot peep sight Savages in my club's Jr .22 program. I'm amazed at how good these rifles can be. Price aside they are a good shooter. And when you toss in the fact that they are generally priced less than the equivalent competition you've got a budget winner in my books.

    If the lowly .22LR is more affected by wind and other conditions then what of it? It becomes good practice for reading and compensating for wind and in general becoming a better shooter.
     
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    For bench shooting, trying to stack round right on top of one another - .17HMR.

    FWIW, though, my range has bolt-action, .22LR Savages (MkIIFVTs). While they aren't *as* accurate out to 100yrds, the difference if you're using a fast .22lr round might not be substantial enough to justify the difference in cost.

    Your call, but just sayin'. This past weekend my son was breaking clays with his Marlin .22lr at 100yrds. I'm sure he missed some he 'should' have hit because of the round's performance, but it was plenty fun (and cheap!).

    But, if your application is *strict* accuracy, buy the .17HMR and feel no remorse. :)

    Good luck with the new tool, either way.
     
  12. firesky101

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    http://www.anschuetz-sport.com/

    There ya go, I have an anschutz pistol that is more accurate than any rifle I have ever shot. From a rest it will group five in under a half inch at 100yds. They make rifles too, I just can't afford any of the super accurate ones.
     
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  13. mastiffhound

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    Most accurate rimfire I have shot is my 50-some year old stevens buckmark in .22lr. At 50 yards I can put 5 rounds of blazer .22lr in under a penny. I have shot so good with it that I actually started shooting pennies for fun. The barrel is heavier than most barrels on newer .22's. Not bad for a $60 rifle. I am sure I could do under an inch at 100 yards. Look at some older rimfires, they will surprise you. They are made like everything else from many years ago, with pride and longevity in mind.
     
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    When you look at the absolute BEST accuracy in a rimfire bench rest competiton, 22LR is the most accurate, even at 100 yards.

    When you look at what "production" rimfire rifle that wins more matches than any other, it's easily the Anschutz!

    The most accurate rimfire "for the least money spent" is Savage... Then you start working on it to make it the most accurate it can be!

    DM
     
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    My 51 year old Remington 512 shoots 1.5" at 100 yards with federal bulk. It gets SCARY accurate with RWS Target, but I've never shot the stuff at 100 yards. Time of flight probably best measured with a calender. It will shoot one hole at 25 yards and nearly so at 50.

    I've only shot Winchester dynapoint and CCI maximag in my 597 magnum, but with those, it shoots 1.5" at 100 yards. That's plenty good 'nuf for anything I'm gonna do with it.
     
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    I've never seen or heard of a .22LR that costs $400 and shoots half-MOA at 100yds. Some even better.

    Nobody said anything about high level benchrest competition or Anschutz rifles.
     
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    Walmart stocks a bull barrel marlin for $200 in .17hmr. No sights on it though.
     
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    .5 MOA at 100yds for 22LR is pretty impressive, but I can regularly get .8-1.2 MOA 5 shot groups out of my Savage. That is a $200 used rifle, with a no-name bipod in front, a sock filled with cat litter in the rear, a $25 used eBay scope and CCI SV ammo ($25/brick at Dicks sporting goods). I have no idea if it would do .5MOA, but I am pretty sure that with a decent quality front and rear rest and better ammo it could do better than the .8 MOA it does now.

    No $300 rifle is going to be competitive against better rifles in benchrest, but the one advantage of 22LR is that you can buy cheap ammo when you want to just plink, and better ammo when you want to get more serious. Your ammo selection with .17 is much more limited.
     
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    Also keep in mind cleaning the 17HMR is a pain compared to the 22.
     
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    If I were to bet on any rimfire it would have to be the Savage 17HMR with 17gr TNT HPs mine shot bug holes over and over and over again. One hole groups is awful small with a .17 cal! I miss that gun :(
     
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    "Firesky101 said,
    There ya go, I have an anschutz pistol that is more accurate than any rifle I have ever shot. From a rest it will group five in under a half inch at 100yds They make rifles too, I just can't afford any of the super accurate ones."

    Is that 22lr? If it is I would really like to see your setup.:)
     
  23. firesky101

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    Yeah it is a .22lr scary accurate. I will try to get some pictures up, but it resides in my dads safe for the moment. I live in the city, and he has a bit of varmint problems and really likes the handiness of the pistol. Best group I have ever done without the home made ransom rest was around 1.2" at 100yds just shooting off bags.
     
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    I would get a CZ 452 Training rifle in .22lr while they are still available new...They won't hold a candle to some of the claims made in this thread. However, they will easily shoot well under 1" ten shot groups at 50 yards using bulk ammo and will usually shoot groups about half that size using better target ammo.
     
  25. alman

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    Lots of good input & opinions here . I would agree a Savage 17HMR is an option . Anything CZ would also work although they can get pricier than $300in a hurry . I own 3 rimfires currently . Marlin/Glenfield 60 for semi auto fun & not to shabby as far as accuracy goes . Marlin 883SS in 22mag , also accurate to a point & a Marlin XT22VR . Not sure im going to achieve the accuracy Id like with the XT but I'm not done "tweeking" it . Just thought I'd get some opinions . Would really like a rimfire that will outshoot me . I think if I shop smart I can get where I'd like within my budget .
    AL
     
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