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Most common 308/ 175 grn. bolt load

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Fatelvis, Mar 24, 2007.

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  1. Fatelvis

    Fatelvis Member

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    I know in my M1A about 41 grains of IMR4895 under a 168 SMK is the standard 308 load that produces great accuracy in almost every M14 style rifle. But with my new Rem 5R ready to zero, I was wondering if there is a "standard" 308 Win. 175 SMK load that everyone swears by. I need a place to start ! Thanks-
     
  2. USSR

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    Fatelvis,

    42.2gr of IMR4895 works well in a bolt gun if you are using LC brass.

    Don
     
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    Thanks Don, Im using Lapua brass for the bolt gun though. Should I figure Lapua brass to be the same as LC, or have more/less internal volume? Thanks-
     
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    There are many options in addition to IMR4895.

    Current M118LR is loaded with non-cansister grade of RL15 and 175gr SMK, as is FGM in both 168 and 175 versions. A Fed 210M primer would be a good spark to the powder.

    Varget is good with 175gr SMK, CCI BR2 primer works best.
     
  5. USSR

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    Lapua brass has just a little more case capacity than LC. Anything between 42.2gr and 42.5gr should work fine with IMR4895. As P0832177 said, Varget and RL15 are good choices also.

    Don
     
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    I shoot 44 grains of Varget with Winchester or Lapua cases.
     
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    Start at 40.5 grains of IMR 4895 and I quit at 41.5. I was using LC brass and WLR, OAL .LT. 2.800". If you have a chronograph keep track of your velocities. If memory is correct, white box match ammunition with a 174 FMJ was about 2550 fps. I would keep under 2600 fps. It will stay supersonic at 1000 yards. I have shot this load out to a 1000 and did horrible, but it was not the bullet's fault. I shot it 600 yards a good number of times and did outstandingly.

    Why you don't see any "standard" loads with the 175 is that Sierra came out with this bullet just as the M1a was being displaced by the AR as a target rifle. The 175 would have probably been the "standard" bullet with a couple more years on the firing line. It is an excellent bullet.
     
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    Interesting thread. I have been using the 168 SMK with R-15 and Varget with good results with R-P cases (no more of those, thank you) and Win. I have a batch of LC Match once fired on the way. I'll give the 175s a try.
     
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    Ive been reading alot lately about RL15 showing temperature sensitivity, so I think I'll be trying Varget, and of course IMR4895.
     
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    I shoot it with 42.5gr IMR4064 in a LC case. It's a little hard on the gun.

    Ty
     
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    Has anybody tried substituting the 178 AMAX for the 175 SMK? The ballistic coefficient is about the same at the velocity that this would be fired at in a .308 (.495 for the AMAX vs. .496 in the SMK from 1800 FPS to 2800 FPS). Yes, I know, these are different bullets - that's why I ask the question.

    I'd be very interested in hearing about anyone's results with the 178s.
     
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    I suspect the 178 has a longer bearing surface than the 175, so I'd probably back down by 1.5-2grs and see what that gets you.

    Ty
     
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    There's no "standard" load for any rifle. You must work up a load your rifle will shoot well. You will find that IMR4064 gives more consistent accuracy with either 168 or 175 grain match bullets than IMR4895. Load for the bullet weight not who made it. 175's give better accuracy at ranges past 600 yards. 168's for up to 600.
     
  14. USSR

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    Sam,

    Here are my loads using the 178gr AMax. Please note, these loads use Hornady Match brass which has a larger case capacity than most brass (except perhaps Winchester). Rifle is FN SPR, 1st Gen Model with 26" barrel.

    Hornady Match Brass
    178gr AMax
    Fed 210M primer
    45.5gr Varget
    2.840" OAL
    2747fps

    Hornady Match Brass
    178gr AMax
    Fed 210M primer
    45.9gr RL15
    2.840" OAL
    2746fps

    Hornady Match Brass
    178gr AMax
    Fed 210M primer
    48.0gr N550
    2.840" OAL
    2754fps

    The goal of my load development was to find velocities in the 2750fps range, as this is considered a safe, performance load with 175/178gr bullets.

    Don
     
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