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Most controllable .45 ACP platform?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by MTMilitiaman, Aug 2, 2008.

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  1. MTMilitiaman

    MTMilitiaman Member

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    Well a new job has me looking at a little bit more disposable income to be diverted to toys. While I really want that DS Arms FAL, I think I am going to focus on getting a .45 for the bedstand first. I do this because my only current handgun is a Glock 20, which with my level of skill is a little much. I believe with the proper base and constant practice, the 10mm Auto is within just about everybody's reach and rumors of excessive recoil are greatly exaggerated. But it is a little snappier than I wold prefer.

    I know I can shoot a 1911 .45 comfortably. And I am confident in the Glock as a platform as well. I was originally just curious as to whether the Glock 21SF I have my eye on would be more or less controllable in terms of recoil, muzzle flip, and overall shooting characteristics than the Springfield MC Operator I am currently planning on getting to fill the role. I firmly believe the 1911 has survived this long based on its shootability. But to open this discussion up farther, what do you think is the most shootable/controllable .45 on the market?
     
  2. camacho

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    As far as I am concerned, that would be the 1911 platform!
     
  3. Pilot

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    My first choice is a full size, all steel 1911. However, the full size HK USP is a very easy shooting .45. I have both and they are great.

    Oh, another that comes to mind is the CZ-97B!
     
  4. Tim Burke

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    Try the M&P and the XD in 45. I find the recoil in 45 to be:
    1911 > GLOCK™ > XD > M&P.
    YMMV.
    I usually shoot a 1911, because the recoil is not that significant, and I prefer the ergonomics. When rating the ergonomics, I find:
    1911 > M&P > XD >> GLOCK™.
    Again, YMMV.
     
  5. jlh26oo

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    The H.K. U.S.P.'s dual recoil spring soaks it up, GLOCK's wide backstrap disperses recoil well, and the Sig P220, while it has a high boreline, tends to roll back very smoothly. Also polymer- although lighter, can absorb more recoil I.M.O. (as it is less rigid than alloy or steel). I think you could do worse than a 21 S.F. for a controllable .45 A.C.P. assuming it fits your hand. Of course you could do better too, if something else happens to be more comfortable, or if the S.F. is still a reach. J.M.O. and Y.M.M.V.
     
  6. HM2PAC

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    1911, USP, P220, G21.....IMHO all of them are pretty gentle shooters for .45ACP.

    Since you already have a G20, you may want to look at a conversion for it that would allow you to use .45ACP.
     
  7. Eric F

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    I would say a double stack 1911 or an all steel EAA just from personal experience the heavier it is the more control you get. But then again you are the person that has to carry it.
     
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  8. MTMilitiaman

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    I am surprised that people find the USP to be so pleasant. I've never found a .45 to be painful or unpleasant, but of the three or four 1911s I've fired, my dad's Ruger P90, and the USP Tactical that collects dust in my room, I find the USP to be the least pleasant. It has much more muzzle flip than any other .45 I have ever shot. In terms of shooting characteristics, it more closely matches the muzzle flip of my Glock 20 shooting full power Double Taps than most other .45s.
     
  9. rcmodel

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    1911's always win all the Speed-Racer combat matches, so I guess that would make it the most controllable.

    rcmodel
     
  10. wingman

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    I love the 1911 but recently purchased a Witness Match elite 45acp I believe
    is the most controllable 45 I've fired.
     
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    I've shot Kimber 1911's, Springfield 1911's and XD45's, A Kahr, and a Glock 21 and 30.

    Out of those the most comfortable and controlled for me was the Glock 21. That is what is in my nightstand safe.

    Every person is different, but that was my preference.
     
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    I have owned a SA MC and a Glock 21. I wish I had kept the SA.
    Both are quite controllable. In MY mind the edge went to the SA, but it was close.

    Any chance to shoot both side by side? With the extra weight of the SA MC it is just every so slightly better.
     
  13. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    A Thompson. :p

    Honorable mention to my V16 ported 6" longslide springfield.
     
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    Every one is diffrent, shoot a bunch, pick one.

    I've shot 10-15 diffrent 45 autos, for the most part, the guns that were all metal( rather it be steel or AL frame) seemed to shoot the "softest". Your exp maybe diffrent.
     
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    For my bedside gun, I went with a railed 1911 longslide.

    A gun which weighs 50 ounces does a hell of a job taking care of the .45.
     
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    I have shot 1911's and now have an xd45 service. Out of the two (for me)the xd45 feels more controllable.
     
  17. BlindJustice

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    Well you said Most Controllable .45 ACP Platform

    Any platform ?

    1. Auto Ordnance 1927A1
    16.5" Bbl. and 12 lbs weapon weight
    take yer pick of model type. I've always wanted
    the "Commando" style with the plain horiz. forestock
    but pair it with a detachable butt stock.... can you say
    "FUN PLINKER"? or Hall cleaning tool?

    oh Handgun

    We'll eliminate T/C Contender with the long barrel and single shot....

    2. surprized NOBODY picked it andit wins it's category in
    competition A LOT.

    S&W 625 - mines a 5" Bbl. with full, underlug and
    weighs 45 oz. no slide and crap happening above your hands
    and with the full size finger grooved & chechered Hogue
    ROsewood grips, that Big Grll is a looker as well.

    Semi-Auto Handgun ?

    1911 5" Bbl.Steel frame - get the grips YOU like.

    Randall
     
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    i would say a full size 1911 as well, my sa mc operator is awesome, very accurate,. reliable as can be and is fun to shoot, recoil isn't even an issue at all with that gun. even my ruger p345 is nice, even though it is a polymer .45 but i would definetly say go with a 1911 of some sort. the heavier the better for recoil purposes.
     
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    Of the .45's Ive owned throught the years, the most comfortable and the most controlable for me has been my CZ-97.
     
  20. R12GS

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    My own personal experience in shooting multiple .45acp chambered full size guns are as follows:

    XD<Glock<M&P<1911<SIG 220

    As mentioned all .45acp handguns are relatively easy to shoot for the most part. I did find a stock SIG 220 the most comfortable to shoot with 1911's close behind.
     
  21. dmazur

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    Many believe the Commander-length 1911 is the best compromise between controllability and concealability (in a 1911).

    It's only a 3/4" difference in barrel length, but it can make a big difference in comfortable carry when seated.

    Not really an answer to your question, as it is a compromise, but you might try a couple of Commander-length 1911's in your quest.
     
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    In 45 I prefer the 1911.

    There are many other good platforms out there now, particularly the stainless single action SIG's that interest me, but I know the 1911, and I have fought with the 1911. I have yet to see or hear about another 45acp platform finishing a 1000 round endurance shoot successfully.

    I will stick with the 1911 in 45acp. Only 97 years of consistent and reliable service. I guess some day one of todays existing guns will be able to say that. Until then..... 1911.

    Go figure.

    Fred
     
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    I prefer the 1911 because it fits my hand better than any other platform. Make mine with smooth grips and an arched mainspring housing and I can shoot it like no other. I have 3 .45 autos; 2 are 1911s. I should also say that my HKUSP45C feels far snappier than even my Kimber Ultra CDP with the same load.
     
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    All I've got to compare are the M&P .45 and my Sig220.

    I've got smaller hands, so I much prefer the 220. For some reason, the measurement front to back on the grip is significantly longer on the M&P than it is on the 220.

    Also, the M&P is a 1st gen gun, and over half of my department's guns would consistently malfunction when we switched over to the M&P from the 4506. They had to be repaired by the factory, and they didn't believe us at first.
     
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    Para Ordnance P14. lots of weight, full size. LOTS of control. P14's and other double stack 1911's are race gun favorites for their control
     
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