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most dependable 12 gauge shotgun(s)?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by cajun47, Feb 20, 2007.

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  1. cajun47

    cajun47 member

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    i have 2 remy 12 gauge 870 express(i think) pumps. they both are kinda sluggish when cycling cheap short brass or even the good 3" shells. 2 3/4" shell work fairly well. they where dirty and i sprayed some cleaner in both actions at the range but it didn't make much difference. the guns just dont feel that "smooth". like there is hesitation when i pump sometimes.

    i gave one a bath in hot soapy water, poured soap on the parts as i scrubbed with a tooth brush. im gonna see if that make a difference.

    anyway what is considered the most dependable brand overall?
     
  2. Dave McCracken

    Dave McCracken Moderator In Memoriam

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    You got it now. 870s last forever and work under bad conditions.

    Learn to take yours apart and clean it thoroughly, lube lightly and BA/UU/R. They smooth up nicely in a few thousand rounds....
     
  3. The Deer Hunter

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    Ditto. . . see above.
     
  5. HeedJSU

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    See previous 3 posts. I own four, and probably will never buy another kind of shotty. :D

    Justin
     
  6. 556A2

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    Another 870 zealot :)
     
  7. dpote

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    I've been a Mossberg user for about six years, give or take.
    Reading the posts here for a while has converted me to the Remington side of the house. I finally have an 870, and I love it.
    Your 870's are definately the ticket. I wish I would have gotten one sooner.
    Your mention of cleaning methods kind of scared me, though.
    This post will point you in the right direction. There is another one on breaking in a pump gun in the links to TFL thread. I used its information to break in an 835 to perfection.

    Dave
     
  8. cajun47

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    ^^^ you don't like giving your guns a bath? thats steaming hot water and dish detergent poured directly on the parts and scrubbing with a tooth brush really works. i gave my ruger p89dc a bath with it also. i rinse with very hot water and it just evaporates away quickly.

    i would like to know your reasons why you don't like that. i may learn something.
     
  9. MCgunner

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    Oh, I think a good double or even an NEF single barrel is more reliable. I mean, what's to break? :D Nothing taken away from the 870, though I don't own one anymore. They're good guns. Don't think they're any better than my Mossberg and there are things I prefer on the Mossberg, but they're reliable and shoot and point well and hold up forever, so what more could ya want?

    Far as giving guns a hot water bath, anyone shoots black powder knows the curative properties of hot soapy water. :D
     
  10. MCgunner

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    Never say never. I sure like autoloaders and I have this thing for doubles, especially side-by-sides. Even Stevens 311s are classy compared to any pump. :D JMHO, though. And, hey, single shots are cheap and handy!
     
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    Well, that's the thing. I've got a Harrington and Richardson Single Shot 10 ga, and 2 Savage side-by-sides (One is a Savage Fox, which my grandfather bought when he was younger, and a Stephens Savage Model B that's even older, which my grandfather cut to 18.1 ((barely legal in Alabama))" years ago, which I kinda wish he hadn't done.) Makes for a good HD shotty though, I've got it loaded with 20 ga. duck loads beside my finance's bed. I really just have a love affair with my 870's though. My current favorite, believe it or not, is a .410 870 Wingmaster Lw loaded with slugs. It's fun to shoot (hunt) small woodland animals with. My next shotty purchase is gonna be a 870 Marine Magnum. That's just a sweet looking gun.

    Justin
     
  12. cajun47

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    Saiga AK Shotgun

    whats everyone's opinion on that?
     
  13. lev83

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    Another 870 fan these things just can not be beat.
     
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    Sorry about the reponse about the cleaning methods. I just got the impression the sticky action could have been from rust.
    I actually clean a lot of my guns with water, as I shoot BP exclusively (not subs) for cowboy action.
    I guess I should have just said make sure the water is hot.
    As far as the Saiga, I had a real good time with one that a friend has. The magazine wasn't big enough, though. But when you're having fun, no mag is big enough. It seemed dependable at the time, but he says you really have to keep on top of the maintenance.

    Dave
     
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    Let's see...
    For pumps I have:

    12GA Ithaca Model 37 w/30" barrel (50+ years old)
    20GA Remington Wingmaster (35+ years old)
    12GA Mossberg 535 (3 years old)

    I haven't had any problems with any of them, so....I guess pump shotguns by nauture of their design are pretty reliable.

    Now if you ask which one is the smoothest....The Ithaca by a mile, but it has had 50 years of "polishing", too.

    Smitty
     
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    Greasing the pump rails on your 870's could to help to make them cycle smoother.
     
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    I also own a Saiga 12, and it has been 100% reliable through about 500 rounds, but for absolute proven reliability, the 870 is the king.

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
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    "Most Dependable Shotguns"

    You opened up a can of worms with that question; but my most dependable
    shotgun has always been the 18" barrel Remington 12 gague 870 Marine
    Magnum~!:cool: ;) :D
     
  19. mattw

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    I've got an 870 express but I prefer my buddy's winchester 1300.
     
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    the old faithful mossberg 500, never had a problem and probably never will. Although my single shot winchester model 35 has never jammed either:D
     
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    #1 mod 12 winchester #2 870 dont be sending me no hate mail! its the truth!!!!!!!! :D csa
     
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    In no particular order:

    -870 WM
    -870 SP
    -870 P
    -870 E
    -870 MM

    Oh, did I mention the 870?:D :D :D
     
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    Mossberg 590A1
     
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    and

    -870 SM :)
    Love mine, especially now that youve got my synthetic furniture.
     
  25. Diesel man

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    870 express 12 gauge pump shotgun
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    Great,reliable,flexible shotgun
    Even when hacksawed from 26 inch barrel to 18 inch barrel and cut on the stock.
     
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