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most realistic war movies(dialogue, combat cinematography etc.)

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  1. carlrodd

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    i just watched "stalingrad". got rave reviews online for it's grittiness, authenticity, lack of preachiness etc. not too impressed though. once you've been in the military it's harder to be entertained by war movies....i think. so here are my best and worst(if you respond, would love to hear your reasoning for your choices):


    best: platoon- spacey, dramatic, weed-induced narration dialogue by oliver stone, but the dialogue between soldiers is so spot on and not forced. the arguments, the BS talk, the conflicts between s..t bags and squared away guys, the complete lack of preaching and soapboxing and being curiously aware of the future historical significance of their current actions(i.e saving ryan's privates). just a golden film.....stone was in the infantry in 68 or 69. the combat is exceptionally well done and believable. the only thing separating it from the combat scenes in S.P.R. is sound editing. very genuinely emotional too.

    worst: since i never saw windtalkers, i'll have to say tears of the sun with bruce willis. overblown, unbelievable, uninteresting story. totally unresearched, retarded dialogue. boring combat sequences. no effort for authenticity. boring characters. failed drama. bad score. whoever produced it should be ashamed.

    if not for the unbearable dialogue, S.P.R would be well up there. Band of Brothers is nearly flawless. And worst performance EVER in a war film goes to John Travolta in The Thin Red Line....he's the worst. sorry if this thread doesn't belong in general, but it seemed fun and i wouldn't know where else to put it.
     
  2. yonderway

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    I just hope we get a few more good WW2 movies done while some of the vets are still around to act as consultants in the filming process.

    And in the current political landscape, young'uns like me would love to see some films about the Korean war to help put some perspective on how we got to where we are with them. I think your average American 20-something to 30-something probably doesn't even know we had a Korean war. :(
     
  3. coinshooter

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    We were soldiers is a very good movie well done.
     
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    Saving Private Ryan trancends time. It captured what war...*is*.
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    Well, that is why it's known as the forgotten war, sad as that is.

    As for WW2 movies, there is Inglorious Bastards. Might end up being the best WW2 film made so far.

    For more contemporary war movies, there is Black Hawk Down, though there are a few glaring inaccuracies and a lot of compression from what Bowden documented in his book. On the opposite side, there's Jarhead, with absolutely no combat. Both are excellent, though Jarhead's a fair bit more intelligent.
     
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    '84 charlie mopic' been called the most accurate, well done vietnam movie ever. done in same style as blaire witch project. combat cinematographer goes out with a squad into the bush and films them.

    i hear it was filmed in california, but its pretty real looking. ive never been in a war so i cant make the call on realism, but the movie maintained the suspension of disbelief. few pioints in the film you might forgot that it wasnt a real combat documentary.
     
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    I second that. "The Bridges at Toko-Ri" is probably the best Korean War movie, but it's fiction. (Great production, though.)

    And way too many people got their only exposure to the Korean War via M*A*S*H, and half of them probably think that movie/TV show is about Vietnam.
     
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    mash is a great war film....never mind the series. there are a couple of excellent one volume treatments of the korean war. the one i read was written in the sixties, pre heavy vietnam....VERY interesting perspectives considering what was about to hit. i believe it was called "this kind of war". huge book, jammed with great history, and a quick read.
     
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    Siege at Firebase Gloria

    Das Boot

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    saving private ryan, and while not really a movie band of brothers on hbo was really well done also.
     
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    I loved this movie as a kid.
     
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    Full Metal Jacket
     
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    Always liked the acting in BlackHawk Down.

    Stalingrad was good, not great, i always find subtitles better than voice overs.
     
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    One of the most interesting Korean War histories I've read (and I've read a bunch) is the US Army's medical history of the war; really a terrific read. (I can't put my hands on it right this second, but it's buried in my library someplace.)

    Another good one is TR Fehrenbach's history of the war; it's quite forcefully told. Matt Ridgway's book is also worth a read.
     
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    Band of Brothers.
     
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    It would be interesting to not only have films about the Korean War, but also other wars that are no longer part of the American consciousness.

    You'd have to think that a movie about the War of 1812 would make a huge statement to moviegoers. How many sheeple know about the "scouring of Washington, D.C."? That would make a huge statement to moviegoers, and probably generate a lot more interest in what other parts of U.S. history they don't want to teach you in the public schools.
     
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    War of 1812 wouldnt be PC :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    I would like to see more movies about WW1. Lost battalion is a good one.

    Personally, i think that alot of war movies are better with lesser known actors.

    When i see someone i always see in other movies in a war movie, it doesnt have the same heart to it, seems like.

    Oh, and saints and soldiers was good.
     
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    Yah its well known by people who have been in the army but I don't think many people who weren't have seen it. I liked Band of Brothers, it showed how a company functioned over a longer period than just one or two battles.
     
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    One of my favorites is "Glory," the Civil War flick. Matthew Broderick, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, Cary Elwes, etc. Really brings home the point about how warfare back then was up-close-and-personal ... soldiers really had to have cojones of steel back then ...
     
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    "Stalingrad" was good. "Cross of Iron" was better. One of James Coburn's best performances.

    By the way, is "84 Charlie MoPic" out on DVD? Once upon a time I had it in VHS but lost it a couple of PCS' ago.

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    Actually, M*A*S*H was about the war in Vietnam. They were originally going to make the movie take place in SEA, but since it decidedly has an anti-war message, the producers decided that they didn't want to be that open about it being specifically against the war in Vietnam which was still going on, so they changed it to take place in Korea and made it a commentary against war in general (which was probably a very good decision considering it's long popularity in the mainstream public). If you watch it carefully, you can see many thinly veiled references to the Vietnam war.
     
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    Saving Private Ryan was excellent IMO. It changed the way war movies will be filmed forever.
    Band of Brothers was equally good.
    Glory was also excellent, so was Braveheart in the same aspect mentioned previously (soldiers with cojones of steel, fighting a completely different kind of war). I also enjoyed The Patriot.

    Hmmm. Let's see... I liked Behind Enemy Lines.
    Hamburger Hill too. Full Metal Jacket was awesome. Tears of the Sun was okay. Windtalkers started off so terribly I never finished the movie.

    My uncle did 2 tours in Vietnam, he hates Platoon. He says it's unrealistic. I've never been to war, but I also didn't really care for Platoon that much.

    Anyone know the name of that series that came on in the 80's about the Vietnam war?
     
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    I'm surprised no-one's yet mentioned Gettysburg. For an historically accurate, outstandingly produced war film, I don't know that this one's ever been beaten. I loathe Ted Turner's politics and social views, but I'll forgive him a lot for financing this film!
     
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    Talvisota (The Winter War) is an excellent war movie from Finland about a war most Americans have never heard of.
     
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