Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by defjon, Jun 9, 2022.
"true" pocket size but another handgun of similar size is not.
For example, j-frame 442 is considered a pocket gun my many but a Sig 365 is not; ironically they are about the same height & length.
Typical response by snub enthusiast to the fact that they are about the same size:
Now its not size, but shape, j-frame is perceived as less likely to print due to shape; as if putting an object like hand sanitizer in pocket to break outline isn't an option.
The brick house SP101 immediately came to mind as well.
For me, it’s how well the pocket gun can be drawn from a pocket.
Revolvers may be longer than some similarly sized pistols. But revolvers almost always have grip behind the gun, while most current autoloaders have the grip at least partially under the gun.
It’s like the revolver grip extends from the gun to make grabbing from a pocket easier.
Of course, I liken the shape of a revolver to a banana versus the hard L-shape of many autoloaders. It’s always been easier for me to pull a revolver from my pocket than an equal, or nearly equal, sized autoloader.
Of course, moving on to belt guns, I don’t see the revolver having a advantage in the draw. But that’s just me.
There’s a Sig P365 under that 642.
I love revolvers. Always have. The P365 is a game changer for me.
Beretta m1934 brevatta 7.62 ( .32) auto.
1940s date, picked up from a deceased Japanese fellow by a Marine who carried it around the south pacific Aboard a ship, he traded it to my old man when he couldn't find any ammunition.
Old man carried it continuously from 44 on till 97.
I carried it as a backup untill i finally realized the european designed saftey would get me in a jam.
Yea, its durable
As long as it's handled and used right, I think a steel snubby would last very well.
Your right... my mistake
I really like my airweight and once I got it dialed in, I got a steel framed j to take the burden. Sure I could get another airweight, but every gun is its own entity
No telling if a new one could shoot lights out like this one.
I test myself cold each range trip, fast draw and fire at ten or seven yards (depends on which range is open). It always drills the center out and gives me warm fuzzies about having it handy and stoked with critical defense.
With the ammoflation and scarcity I'm nearly out of critical defense, so I may move to wadcutters or blazer 125 grain flat points.
I think the company is defunct so its best to use it sparingly.
I was a young guy then, and just remember that the price was much higher than the 98 Corolla I drove and kept alive until 2014, so I didn't really look into them.
You definitely take a risk using and running a gun from a defunct company, or even just a discontinued model. I loved my p95 but how long would it have replacement parts/servicing?
Same speed/service sixes, metal framed sw guns, Ruger p series previously mentioned etc.
But based on my experience with guns I have pocket carried, and pocket pistols I've handled in stores, my opinion is this:
Although many people were disappointed when the G42 was released and it turned out to be in .380 rather than 9mm, I think Glock really thought out that model. The G43 is bigger by just enough that it's problematic to pocket carry on a daily basis. Most of my pants (Carhartt and 5.11) have fairly large pockets. And it's just big enough to cause wear spots(which become holes) that the G42 doesn't.
And considering the much lower pressure of the .380 vs the 9mm, it's easy to see how they could make it the size they did. Of course many .380s are even smaller, but the G42 is big enough to still be quite shootable and robust.
So yeah, I'll say the G42.
Not a pocket pistol, SP101
G43 isn’t a true pocket pistol lol. 42 is possibly, on the border
That's my thought. I've got a g42 and carry it regularly as a backup or on it's own if I'm lightly dressed and concealment is a priority . mine an early one, bought in the first few months of production . it's been flawless and it's big enough to shoot reasonably well. It's gone for a few swims. Including in the ocean and hasn't ever malfunctioned that I can remember. Probably have under or around 1,000 rounds through it over the years but I really just shoot a few magazines if I think about it to make sure it's still chugging along. Do I think it would survive a lot of use? Yep, I'd bet on it.
The little ruger is alright but it's smaller and harder to shoot well, the trigger on the hammer fired model is (was?) Horrendous imo. Striker models seem better but I never fired a striker model.
I had a Taurus tcp for a while. I couldn't shoot that thing worth a darn. No exaggeration , 5 yards I couldn't keep them all on paper. My buddy could shoot it, his hands are bigger then mine and he can't shoot any gun better then me- except some how the tcp worked for him. It was a flimsy gun that wouldn't survive long with constant use as far as I'd guess, don't know though.
Pocket guns are tough. Got to be big enough to handle and small enough to go anywhere. I prefer 380 to a 9mm for tiny gun use, easier to shoot fast and reality is that hits are hits, misses don't count. No cartridge war stuff, just what I believe. All that said, I don't think a gun like this is ideal for a primary weapon but that choice is 100% yours.
Both of my guns are a tad big for pocket carry. The SP-101 is also a lot heavier than the LCRx. A LCR snub in 38 Sp is both light and small. Based on my LCRx, a 38 snub LCR should last a lifetime of shooting on a regular basis. Lighter bullets (130 gr or less) make volume shooting less of a chore.
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