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Most Underused Cartridge In Modern Rifles?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Cosmoline, Dec 29, 2002.

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  1. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Member

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    Obviously, no modern rifle manufacturer can chamber rifles in the astonishing array of rifle cartridges produced since the 1870's. But, if you controlled your own rifle plant, what chamberings would you want to see?

    Personally, I think the 8x57JS is the most under-chambered cartridge out there. It's virtually impossible to find any modern rifle in that chamber stateside. I know of a few produced in Europe, but not too many. I suspect the manufacturers may be worried about competing with all the C&R rifles out there. From my perspective, though, I'd jump at the chance to use up some of my massive stockpile of 8x57JS in in modern, MOA hunting rifle.

    Competition with the .30'06 may also be a concern. Yet the 8x57JS is, IMHO, superior to a .30'06, especially when loaded with 200 or 220 grain bullets. And recoil is no worse.
     
  2. Okiecruffler

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    I'll second the 8mm and add the 7mm mauser. I also think the .357 max would make an excellent lever gun. I'd also love to see a mid velocity non-mag .40cal of some kind. This list could go on and on.
     
  3. Nosferatu

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    .50 BMG! :D

    The 8mm Mauser, from what I have read, is a very versitle caliber.
     
  4. 454c

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    I'm not sure about the most underused,but the most unappreciated to me would be the 30-30.It does a great job but getting people to admit that fact is near impossible.It's hard to pick one that's underused because there's so many thats been used over the years.Add to that the wildcat cartridges and the ones from other countries and you run out of fingers and toes pretty quick.
    If I had to pick one I guess it would be the .17 centerfire.Everybody is making a fuss over the .17 rimfire but the .17 centerfire has been around for sometime and had some pretty good numbers to back it up.I'm still trying to learn more about this cartridge so if any of ya'll have any info I'd be grateful to hear it.
     
  5. Steven Mace

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    .17 Remington

    454c, try visiting the Reload Bench or Accurate Reloading for information on the .17 Remington caliber. Hope this helps!

    Steve Mace
     
  6. redneck2

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    approaches the power of a .338. Considered big enough for brownies and moose

    can be "loaded down" for deer

    same recoil as a 30-06. My 7400 has about the same recoil as heavy field load `12 ga. Shoots 1 1/4". Light and handy.

    BUT..it's not one of the new whiz-kid big magnums or little magnums (how does that work??)
     
  7. Swamp Yankee

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    I agree the .357 Max. would make a great lever gun caliber, but it seems to be relegated to used revolvers and Thompson Contenders.
    Don't know if its under used, but my vote would be for the .257 Roberts. It's a great cartridge for whitetail on down and is a lot of fun to shoot because the recoil doesn't beat you up. I think it would work well in some of the new light weight, compact bolt actions being offered. The .257 Roberts really is not promoted, but I believe this is related to the fact it doesn't have Winchester, Remington or Magnum attached to its name.
    Take Care
     
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    I'm quite fond of my Marlin lever action in .356 Winchester (discontinued ?). With the standard 220 grain jacketed FN bullets, it makes a great deep woods gun.
     
  9. trapshooter

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    The 8mm Remington Mag. Needs more bullet choices, and maybe a 8mm RUM would be better. :cool:

    Are you boys at Remington listening? Gimme a .32 caliber whacker!
     
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    700 nitro express you just can't have too many rounds that pound you with 244 ft/lbs of free recoil :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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    250 savage second vote is 257 roberts. Great all around cartriges that just got left on the shelf for uber magnums.
     
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    I like the idea of the .250 Savage. In fact, there's a whole batch of Carles Newton cartridges that got lost in the shuffle after WWII and the decline of Savage Arms. They were all way ahead of their time.
     
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    The .358 Winchester..

    Try and find factory chamberings for this. They are few and far between.;)
     
  14. Mike Irwin

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    S&W 24 stole my main thunder! The two cartridges I was going to name...

    OK, others would include...

    6.5x55, .348 Winchester, and .284 Winchester.

    Oh yeah. Always the .300 Savage. :)
     
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    My two newest purchases: .264 Win mag and .358 Norma mag. With 125 and 250 grain nosler partictions they should cover all the bases thruout the world. And you can load 85 to 310 grains between the two. Standard length actions why didnt they fly?:confused:
     
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    .250 Savage.
     
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    Definately the 257 Roberts with the 6.5x55 closely following. There is always so much talk about how great and versatile the 257 Roberts and 257 AI are but Ruger is the only company that chambers rifles for it. To me, a nice Winchester Model 70 Classic Compact in 257 Improved with a Swarovski or Zeiss 1.5-6x42 scope would be about the ideal choice for a single rifle. Esp for a reloader.

    The 6.5x55 is also a great all around cartridge that must be getting more popular by the day because every distrubutor in the country is back ordered on Tikkas in that caliber.

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    .404 Jeffery was one of most popular rounds for African PH, even gubmint issue. Only the poor case is still used now. My .404 Jeffery sits in its leather trunk and probably never will be used again. Don't want to scratch a "best" grade Mauser do we?:cool:
     
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    IMHO the .284 Winchester, 6.5x284, 250 Savage, 257 Roberts and 6.5x55 Swede.
     
  21. Detachment Charlie

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    Under-Used & Neglected

    .348 Win.
    I've only had the pleasure of using one once. But that Pennsylvania whitetail reacted like it had been hit by a dump truck full of wet sand. :eek:
     
  22. Subby

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    Mike Irwin and Detachement Charlie have it right. There are lots of oddball ones out there to keep us busy. If I ever hit Powerball for 300 million, I'd probably start a company that built bolts and falling blocks in nothing but oddball(that is, non-Wal-Mart) chamberings.

    .22 Hornet
    .220 Swift
    .22 Savage Hi-Power
    .250 Savage
    .257 Roberts
    6.5x55
    .300 H&H
    .348 WCF
    etc, etc, etc
    I'd be broke within two years, but what the hell, once you're poor you never fear it again, eh? I just received an M71 .348 for Xmas, the only other of the above I own is a .300 H&H. I guess I'm just a sucker for the "loners" of the bunch. Given the above Powerball win, I'd probably even build .218s, .25-20s, .32-20s as well, not to mention various other oddballs that hit me as the mood came.

    Sub
     
  23. BHP9

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    the long forgotten .222 magnum. It was a much better cartridge than the .223 ever could be but the military adopting the .223 killed it off.

    I think if the Gun manufactures had their heads on straight, rather than bringing out all these super magnum monsters that are probably the most unneeded cartridges ever developed in the long history of the rifle that if they had reintroduced the .222 magnum they would have been surprised how many people would have wanted one especially in a heavy barrel varmit configuration.
     
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    I'll second the .284 Win., and add the .307 Win.
     
  25. JeFF D

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    7.62x54r...I'd like somebody to make a 12ga/7.62x54r combo, or as a double rifle.

    Also 7.62x39 in more than just semi, a 7.62x39 lever gun would be a handy little package
     
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