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Movie: Tombstone- What are they saying?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by offthepaper, Jul 13, 2009.

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  1. offthepaper

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    I watched the movie Tombstone on the History channel the other night and was wondering, in the scene in the gambling house when Johnny Ringo and Doc Holiday are speaking latin to each other while Ringo is motioning to his six shooter.... does anyone know what the translation in English would be? Is Ringo challenging Doc to a pistol fight?
    Just wondering.
     
  2. 2nd 41

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    "Where Particular People Congregate". No I think that was Pall Mall.
    But what a great movie
     
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    It can be found here

    edit: Kingpin's link is a lot better than my own
     
  5. offthepaper

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    Great.
    Mucho thanks. :D
     
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    Your no huckleberry.
     
  7. offthepaper

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    I have read that Huckleberry could actually be a slang term in the old south for "Hucklebearer" which meant the same as Pallbearer. Implying death. Not sure though.
    Anyone know?
     
  8. Dirty Dawg

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    I'd like to know what Doc meant by Huckleberry as well. I have a great watercolor of Doc by Buck Taylor and I always wonder about that when I see it.
     
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    Wyatt, I am rolling

    Wyatt: "How the hell are you?"

    Doc: "Wyatt, I am rolling!"

    I've never really known what Doc meant by that line.
     
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    I think that's what it's meaning intended. You're no huckleberry was an insult that Ringo isn't a pallbearer ie bearer of death.
     
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    Great. Now I can finally sleep and die a happy man.

     
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  13. TexasRifleman

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    Completely stolen from a webpage:

    http://home.earthlink.net/~knuthco1/Itemsofinterest1/huckleberrysource.htm

     
  14. Dirty Dawg

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    Did a little digging, there seems to be two worthwhile answers, one being "I'll carry your bones" and the other being "I'm the man for the job." Both make sense so I guess you just have to decide which makes more sense to you.

    Found this on another site: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-1428070.html


    And to get this thread back on guns, do you figure an good hand with a gun would have really been as showy as Johnny Ringo? Seems like a fella would want to keep up the mystery, keep his cards a little closer to his chest so as not to tip his opponent to what skill he had or didn't have.

    Dangit, Rifleman beat me to it!
     
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    What a great movie.The entire cast was brilliant,but Val Kilmer as Doc was the stand out role of his career.
     
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    Well, both our sources pretty much agree so there must be some truth to what they claim then. That's always good.
     
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    I think it depends on the motivation of the pistoleer. For Doc, keeping the mystery was in his interest. He was primarily a gambler, and thief, and if able, preferred to walk off with the money without additional conflict. That hidden threat of just "how good was he?", helped to keep would be challengers down.

    For Ringo (and the rest of the Cowboys), the name of the game was protection rackets, intimidation, and straight up banditry. The display of skill(and ruthlessness) helped to ensure that he was feared and ideally would force people to capitulate.

    So while the forshadowing mock duel in the saloon was in many ways a display of each their modis operandi, and ultimately showed Doc to be the "winner" as he disarmed what was becoming a tense situation, it also allowed Doc to instill the fear of God into Ringo, as the duel at the end of the movie so clearly indicated that Ringo was surprised and even off guard that Doc, and not Wyatt showed up.

    Basically I think Ringo knew he had met his better at that saloon even if everyone else just saw the clown that Doc was presenting.
     
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    Wyatt , " I'll turn your head into a canoe." That would be one nasty canoe.
     
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    Thanks guys! Now I have to go dig out the DVD and watch it again! :D
     
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    Val Kilmer and Michael Biehn were the reasons this movie didn't flop like Wyatt Earp :barf:
     
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    I've never understood why so many RKBA supporters love the story of the Earps. It seems to me like they are some of the most famous proponents of gun control in the 1800's.

    When a group of people flouted their unjust laws they were promptly killed by the thugs in authority.
     
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    Well Val Kilmer is a New Mexico resident and has indicated a desire to run for governor.

    I loved the movie tombstone but I have absolutely no desire to have a Hollyweird liberal as governor of my state.

    If New Mexico elects him (which I say is highly probable) I'll be thinking Idaho and Montana aren't really that cold.

    It has been bad enough with Bill Richardson.
     
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    Tombstone is a very entertaining movie with a couple stand out performances.

    So long as we are on the subject of western movies, what was the significance of the "cross" on Russel Crow's, Ben Wade's gun in 3:10 to Yuma?
     
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