Multiple governors speak out against Biden's gun agenda

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  1. sparkyv

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    Testify, brother!


    Sure would like to believe this!
     
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  2. Ru4real

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    You sir, have a great quote worthy statement right there.
     
  3. old lady new shooter

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    When I went to get my AZ driver license, the clerk asked if I want to sign up for permanent voting-by-mail, I asked if I can still vote in person if desired, she said yes, so I figured OK, nothing to lose. Then she asked me which party, I said Republican. She seemed relieved and said something about wanting AZ to keep its character. I said its character was part of the reason I picked it.
     
  4. Tinkerer's_Dam

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    I highly doubt Gov. Andy in KY will stray from the party line if he does it'll surprise me.
     
  5. old lady new shooter

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    The states of Alaska, Kansas, Idaho, and Arizona already have. Texas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, and the Dakotas appear to be next. May be more, it's hard to find a correct up-to-date list on the internet. Also many 2A sanctuary counties in various states.
     
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    I think we should be stressing enforcing the gun laws already on the books.

    For example, it is a FELONY to lie on the 4473. About 10K people per year do it. I don't think they ever prosecute any of them.

    Also, they typically bargain away the gun charges when a felon commits a new crime using a gun.
     
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    Enforcement seems unlikely from a President who sent the Secret Service to clean up the gun crimes of his own family...
     
  8. old lady new shooter

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    He sent the Secret Service? I didn't hear about that... But wouldn't you love to see Biden asked about enforcing the law re 4473's with a followup question about H?
     
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    ^^^I'm with Tommygunn. To imply the world wide pandemic that has killed and continues to kill more people than the Holocaust, is nuttin' but a hoax by Liberals to determine who is on their side, reduces one's legitimacy to a point, that no one can possibly take them seriously. It's these types of arguments that do our cause much more harm than good. Kinda like implying the moon is still made of green cheese because the moon landing was produced on a sound stage in Hollywood. Want to make a difference, make an impact?: Do so with legitimate arguments and facts instead of heavily disproved conspiracy theories and just plain and simple lies. Gun control, like the pandemic is simply more controversial than it needs to be because so many folks want to politicize it. No discussion here because I'm a either a Liberal or a Conservative and I have to toe their line. We tend to call others "sheep" while we continue to follow blindly, while listening to only the rhetoric we want to hear. Funny how the sky always looks cloudy when one is wearing welding glasses.

    I am in the belief that we have all the gun control laws on the books that we need. What we do need to do, is to enforce them, penalize those folks that commit crimes more harshly, while giving them a legitimate route to breaking their criminal lifestyle, and we need to develop a better system to determine when folks with mental or anger issues are a threat to themselves and others. I also am in the belief that myself and others need to actually listen to both sides and make up our minds without considering the political affiliation. Folks tend to claim the media is completely biased against guns while the financially strapped NRA insists we need to send them more money or we are simply handing over our guns to big brother. BTW....I've been a lifetime member since the late 60s. I've also been a realist most of my life. I don't believe that the CIA assassinated Kennedy, nor do I believe there is a 9 foot tall Ape-Man running and hiding in the mountains out west. Now if experts and/or scirnce gives me evidence otherwise, then my mind will change. But until then I will continue to resist sticking my head into the sand......or my rectal orifice. I suggest others do the same.
     
  10. stillquietvoice
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    General Washington spent most of the revolutionary war in retreat.

    With over 22,000 gun laws on the books, none of which have stopped crime or criminals from obtaining guns, with which to do more and greater crimes, harsher enforcement of existing laws is more likely to abate the issue. Bans only serve to make victims of the law abiding citizens and subjects to government.
     
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    In my opinion we don't need ANY gun laws.
    We need to punish the criminals that break all the other laws!
    SC45-70
     
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    Heck, here in Pritzgers republic of Illinois, home to do many prohibitions to count, our esteemed (in size) governor is encouraging Biden. He must not realize we have almost everything HidenBiden wants and more. Suppressors, no. Class 3 NFA, no. Universal background including person to person,yes. Muzzle loaders and many airguns are firearms, yes. Local prohibitions (Crook county) yes. FOID card required, yes. Three day wait on all firearms. You won't see Jabba fighting more laws. He just signed a Black Caucus sponsored law to weaken police, e!dominate cash bail, and on and on.
     
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    Look at the 45 year long war waged on drugs. Whether legal or illegal one thing is certain, if there is a demand for something, somebody will always surface to fulfill those needs.
     
  15. Robert

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    Sam Houston.
     
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    And, of course, most famously, Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus, Cunctator.
     
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    I'm getting tired of all the virtue signalling, on both sides of the gun issue. They're playing us for fools, and I don't like being played for a fool. Every day, there are tens of messages on guns -- pro and con -- in my email inbox. What they have in common is that they ask for money. I immediately delete them all.
     
  18. old lady new shooter

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    Definitely agree with your second sentence.
     
  19. TheBruce

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    This is exactly what more people need to wake the hell up and realize. We have no friends on either side of the aisle in congress, or in the WH. They are ALL in it for money, self enrichment, power and their own carve outs. They vote themselves raises, constantly, the most recent one in the midst of this "pandemic" when ma and pa taxpayer were struggling to keep their business going, and being told they can't operate because it's "unsafe." They exempt themselves from the very laws they impose on us commoners. Who is aware that members of congress cannot be held accountable for insider stock trading due to a back room deal they made quietly amongst each other immediately after passing legislation making it illegal for everybody else?

    Republicans, Democrats, they don't care about you or me. Every single one of them would put themselves first before their own constituents. One of the biggest mistakes we've ever made as a country is making politics a career. Take the money out of politics and watch the political rats scurry away back into the shadows. Politicians in the days of our forefathers had to more or less be coerced into politics because they were being asked to do what they just fought to separate from, and they truly believed in individual liberty and very small government. Political office should be a limited term of service, similar to the military, with a very remedial salary. That's that only way you're going to attract the right kind of people who truly want to do right by the values our country was founded upon. How far we've fallen from the vision of our forefathers. :(
     
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    I never said it wasn’t real, but you won’t convince me it came from nature. The response is 100% political. The death rate is heavily inflated. The money being spent on this deal is as good as a death sentence for our future. The denial of valid treatments screams conspiracy (did you know that in order to legally use an unapproved “vaccine” gene therapy, there has to be no approved treatments)
    Blindly believing the government is buryin your head in the sand.
     
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    With all of those restrictions how were 1.4 million 4473 checks made in Illinois in March alone?
     
  22. kwguy

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    :)
    Black powder guns and double barrel shotguns?
     
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    Miracles happen.
     
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    That was one refreshing thing about Trump. He didn't care about the money in politics.
    Maybe so but at least Republicans seem to care (or pretend to care) about my way of life more than the Democrats.
     
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