Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by Hot44, Feb 19, 2021.
looking for the best brake to reduce recoil
I hear good things about area 419
The APA little bastard
And personally I like the VG6 gammas, I also have a break that I got off eBay, I can't remember the name of right now, but it looks really nice and they're bored to caliber rather than just generic. They're also tapered to match your barrel You just have to measure it.
I've got the Area419 "Hellfire" self timing brake on my 6mmSLR and it works as advertised. It keeps the recoil down to the point I can spot for myself.
This summer I put a Precision Armament "Hypertap" on my 3Gun rig and it works extremely well with recoil and pretty much eliminates muzzle climb. It's a noticeable difference even in .223. It is expensive and is one of the loudest brakes I've shot though.
Both of the above come in 6.5.
APA Fat Bastard, Area419 Hellfire, or Piercision Muscle Brake. In that order. I also have APA Little Bastards and Impact Precision brakes, among many other muzzle brakes of various classes, but I don’t really find these smaller, fewer port brakes to deliver the reduction I really want in a 6.5 creed class rifle.
I use Patriot Valley Arms breaks on mine. I believe I have 4 or 5 on various rifles.
The Hellfire brake is technically advanced and should work for you. Or go with a suppressor and kill two birds
One that has not been mentioned but also works very well is the MPA four port brake.
It practically eliminates recoil on a 6 Creed, have not shot a 6.5. Not obnoxious to the shooter, don't stand close to the left or right of the shooter.
I don’t see that has much recoil. I guess you want to get back on target quickly. If Surefire makes one for that caliber I would check it out.
Yes, you want to see impacts for feedback on wind/dope, and save time or you will lose opportunities for impacts if you time out before finishing the run.
VG6 gammas and epsilon for me on AR-10 HB 22" and a T/C Venture and a 700 PS Remington rebarreled to 6.5 Creedmore.
But do any of these muzzle devices have an effect on accuracy?
From what I know and read, no, it does not effect accuracy. Some shooters say because the reduced recoil also reduces the automatic flinch, accuracy is thus improved.
The only one I have tried is the apa little bastard. Not a fan of the name, but it sure worked well. Loud though. I prefer a suppressor
I believe it was intentional that the name describes the noise. "That's a loud little ..........."
Probably one of the less offensive terms ive heard applied to the device by an unsuspecting bystander......
If the recoil of a 6.5 creed more bothers you. You should probably buy a 22 based caliber.
if you think you can shoot as well without a brake as with a brake, come on out to a competition and get smoked by 50 Nancy’s with brakes 6dashers.
Wasn’t throwing shade just making a suggestion as I know some people are extremely recoil intolerant. As as I said before I have never shot with a brake so have no experience other than shooting next to someone using them on the bench next to me.
they're magical. let you spot your own trace. but extraordinarily obnoxious. i don't use them unless everybody is using them.
They have become par for the course here as is guess 50+% of the rifles you see at the range have them.
I make a point of letting everyone know when one of my larger braked rifles is going to go off, but for the most part we're all so used to dealing with them that it's just second nature not to get to the sides of a braked gun. Everyone's also getting better about not touching off shots with someone in the blast zone.
I have an equal number of brake and unbraked rifles at this point... Or I do in my head anyway....
And I rarely carry one of the ones that has a break when hunting with anybody else. If I am carrying a braked rifle I'm the only one carrying a rifle and they have strict instructions not to get to the side of me and to put in hearing protection or at the very least cover their ears.
Having touched off a few rounds with braked guns and no hearing protection I actually don't find much of a difference with side brakes that don't face backwards somewhat. Radials tend to blast down as much as to the sides and up and I think a lot of that comes back at you in shockwave dust and debris. That said now if I have a chance to put in hearing protection for any shot I'll do so, and I may pass on a shot if I know I'm going to get blasted from my own brake.
I've also played with muzzle weights/linear compensators that are pretty close to the same as the brake. And at least for me they seem to do a decent job of keeping point of impact the same or within an easily adjustable distance.
Brake for goofing off, linear comp for hunting with friends. again not something I had opportunity to try a bunch but it seems like a decent way to work it
They aren’t bad at a PRS match because no one has to be next to them.
They do reduce recoil/help you stay on target, which is a big plus.
they used to be. matches years ago would have 30+ guys on a line all shooting paper targets at 100-300 yards
It’s still not unheard of to be staged beside other shooters occasionally at matches - usually on platforms. Send up 2-4 shooters, everybody goes prone, and hold fast until each guy cycles through firing their turn at the stage. We shot a tower stage like that at a two day night match last season in OK, same range which hosted the PRS Finale a couple months ago, another like it at George Gardner’s Midwest PRS Regional Finale the year before last, at at Lone Star Armory’s 2 day match that season. Even when we’re not pre-staged, many platforms are small enough that a guy can’t get very far away from the concussion of the guy firing the stage.
I also saw a stage shot two weeks ago at Rifles Only Brawl NRL match where two shooters (not a team match) would engage targets at the same time from while navigating up and down this “rat trap” structure - shooting from cramped and awkward positions which have a tendency to push ear pro out of place. At least most of the positions were through portholes, except the top platform.
i've shot that rat trap several times. it sucks.
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