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My attempt at rolling own prints

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by greyling22, Jul 11, 2018 at 2:15 PM.

  1. greyling22

    greyling22 Member

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    So rolling your own prints is hard. After several attempts, this is my best. The right thumb is not quite as dark in real life. You can see some detail.

    But, those of you who know fingerprints, do you think they are good enough to submit for my form 4? Or am I going to need to go pay somebody for the swanky new digital ones?
     
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  2. MachIVshooter

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    Unless something has changed, they won't accept a card you did yourself. Think about it; could be anyone's prints, why would they just take your word for it?

    Most Sheriff's offices or police departments do them for a minimal charge. I think it was $10 here.
     
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  3. greyling22

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    my reading from multiple sources on the internet indicates you can roll your own, and while that makes not sense, it does keep with the whole NFA thing being riddled with things that make no sense.
     
  4. Mauser lover

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    My sheriff's office didn't charge at all...
     
  5. MEHavey

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    Personally, I would delete that post if I were the OP.
    Just a suggestion.....
     
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  6. RPZ

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    Exactly what I thought as soon as I saw it.
     
  7. Sistema1927

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    Why in the world would you post your finger prints on the internet?

    Also, I doubt that you can "roll your own". My experience is that it always has to be done by a certifying authority.
     
  8. CapnMac

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    Her in Texas you go to the Driver's License office (which are run by DPS, the Department of Public Safety), and they are $5, IIRC.
     
  9. jmorris

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    Couldn’t be any worse than posting your social, address and bank account number.

    I agree though, if “we” could do it on our “honor” there would be no need to do them at all. Same reason more gun laws don’t stop crime, if your going to break the law, well your not following it,
     
  10. greyling22

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    enh, I can't seem to get a good set. I'll just change my trust to include fewer people and pay to get a set for both of us. I'll just add them back after approval. I was trying to get my wife to be my 2nd, but I got enough resistance that I will never get her to a fingerprint outfit. I'll use my dad instead. as far as posting prints, A) they're garbage and B) prints with no identifiers don't mean much. you could do as good or better stealing a used glass from chili's. But I can take them down. it's no big deal to me.
     
  11. jmorris

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    I think that’s why you can’t do them yourself.
     
  12. dogtown tom

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    Sure they will. 41F states that "anyone properly equipped" can take the fingerprints. In fact, Silencer shop has several hundred fingerprint scanner kiosks at gun dealers all around the country for that very purpose. (I have one in my dining room to hide the crack in my wall)



    One, because its not required to have your identity verified before being fingerprinted.
    Two, because .gov loves databases.
    Three, because the FBI will check the prints submitted against other fingerprint records. If they don't match, your form gets kicked back.
     
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  13. dogtown tom

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    Yet ATF says otherwise.;)
     
  14. jmorris

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    Seems like they should just go by the ones they already have at that point.
     
  15. dogtown tom

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    Every Form 1 and Form 4 submission requires its own set of fingerprint cards. If you submit four Form 4's today, you also submit four sets of fingerprint cards.

    Thems the rules.
     
  16. Ryanxia

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    What he said. Anyone "properly equipped" can do them. In fact you can order the fingerprint cards right from the ATF/FBI's website (can't remember when I ordered, think FBI?) for free. They even have a pretty detailed How To on doing your own fingerprints.

    Yes it makes the process 'vulnerable' but getting fingerprinted, paying a bribe and waiting 10 months to put a shorter barrel on a rifle you already own doesn't make sense either. Its sad we can make a human being in less time it takes for our government to grant us the privilege to put a different piece of plastic on the back of our own property.
     
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