My Bullet (projectile) Ordering Phobia...
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Mr_Flintstone
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I’ve never ordered 1000, but I’ve ordered 500 several times, and never had a problem. I see your concern though. Most stores pack things pretty securely. ACME Bullets even ships in a wooden box; but I really don’t like the burnt smell of their wood.
Obturation
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Well if you order 1000 on the regular your postal worker will beef up and be able to handle it. Then next year order 2000 at a time.
In all seriousness, they'll be fine, if you notice damage contact the seller.
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How is dropping a box of 500 bullets less damaging than dropping a box of 1000? Odds are a box of 500 will get thrown across the back of the truck, while a box of 100 will have to be carried. Anytime I have had bullets arrive with damage to the boxes, usually the manufacturer makes it right. Usually it isn't because of damage to the bullets, but damage to the box, and the box sprung a leak and some fell out.
badkarmamib
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The last time I placed a large order, I went in with some others, and ordered 2,000 lead pistol bullets. Think it was like 60 pounds. My wife was home, heard the carrier get to the single step to our front porch, heard a grunt, and then a THUMP as the box landed. Everything in the box was OK, and I pictured the carrier grumbling all the way back to the car, "'If it fits, it ships', my butt..."
I needed some 45 bullets and bought 2000 (4 boxes of 500) at a gun show. It was about a 300 yd. walk to where I was parked. I had to stop and rest about 4 times. I'll never do that again.
To optimize the shipping cost at Missouri bullets you have to fill a big flat-rate box which is also 2000 bullets. Our mail lady is little, and I feel sorry for her.
To optimize the shipping cost at Missouri bullets you have to fill a big flat-rate box which is also 2000 bullets. Our mail lady is little, and I feel sorry for her.
If one orders cast bullets (even the unnecessarily hard BHN 18+) there may be some damage if loose packed, but more often than not, no damage. How much does 1,000 bullets of your choice weigh? If really heavy, the post office might not handle it and a commercial carrier would probable use a hand truck to move the pkg...
I get around all worry about shipping damage by casting my own bullets. I do get lead shipped to me via USPS and occasionally a package will appear damaged, but how much can one damage a 5 lb. lead ingot(s)?
I get around all worry about shipping damage by casting my own bullets. I do get lead shipped to me via USPS and occasionally a package will appear damaged, but how much can one damage a 5 lb. lead ingot(s)?
Blue68f100
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The only time I had problem is when I order for Midway. They always make it right but it's a pain. The last order I had 1000 each of 124gr and 115gr, I had to sort the 2000 bullets out, what a PITA that is to do. And I had some missing. This was the 3rd time so I quit ordering any bulk count from them. For some reason they think those little pillow packs are going to support 20# + of weight without blowing out. I now order directly form the mfg MBC or another retailer for small quantities. Never had as problem since.
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Don’t order bulk bullet orders from Midway. They are absolutely pathetic about packaging bullets. I had 500 bullets packed in one of the plastic envelope/bag/bubblemailers once, which was ripped open, retaped, with the internal box destroyed and leaking bullets - I was missing over 100 bullets out of a 500 order. I’ve had damaged boxes multiple times - once I had two boxes of 500ct berger bullets inside a simple cardboard box with a couple of their green air pads on each side, the bubbles popped, the exterior box damaged and ruptured, and the interior boxes damaged. Luckily the berger box and the interior bag weren’t ruptured. Alternatively, I have also lost bullets when the plastic berger or Sierra boxes have been damaged and the exterior box ruptured.
For such a big and long-standing company, you’d think they would know better.
For such a big and long-standing company, you’d think they would know better.
Hmmmmm.?? Seems you have a mixture of phobias
Ballistophobia.
Bassophobia
Officinaphobia
Put them all together = fear of ordering bullets.
Further research is warranted. In the meantime order the bullets, all will be OK
I have ordered 1000 at a time on several occasions from MBC, Super, well packaged
Ballistophobia.
Bassophobia
Officinaphobia
Put them all together = fear of ordering bullets.
Further research is warranted. In the meantime order the bullets, all will be OK
I have ordered 1000 at a time on several occasions from MBC, Super, well packaged
I order 2k or 4k 9mm Berrys at a time and have never had an issue. Mostly they come UPS or FedX. I don't know what caliber we're talking about here but 1k of 9mm weigh about 16lbs. I've had plenty of Amazon orders come USPS that weighed more than that and came in far bulkier packages with no problems.
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I often order in quantities of 4000+ from various vendors.
Many vendors package 1000-2000 bullets in separate boxes and then place the boxes in larger boxes. Berry's, Everglades, HSM, MBC, Montana Gold, PowerBond, RMR, X-Treme, Z-Cast, Zero/Powder Valley all do this with RMR going overboard with putting bullets in heavy plastic bags, then in individual boxes then clear taping the boxes to the point where the clear tape essentially forms a tight protective bag around each box - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ponents-on-sale.707473/page-178#post-11161685
In the past several years of ordering 100,000+ bullets from various vendors, I have not experienced busted open delivered boxes of bullets. Did some of them arrive with a dent on corners? Yes. Were the bullets damaged to the point of not being usable? No.
And careful measurements with calibrated calipers (using pin gages) and micrometer at 12/3/6/9 O'Clock positions read bullets such as RMR in-house manufactured jacketed and various plated bullets with softer lead cores with consistent diameters - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...re-sized-the-same.818806/page-2#post-10567453
My sentiment is that smaller 500 round boxes are more likely to be thrown into the van than 1000-4000 round boxes.
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Jim Watson
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I have a couple of thousand bullet lots on order, should get one in today or next week.
When I am sure I like a pattern, I order by the case. Numbers vary depending on caliber and weight to make it come out close to the maximum flat rate box of 70 lbs.
I have had them come in with crushed corners and inner bags or boxes broken, but none completely opened to spill bullets in the post office, which would undoubtedly cause hysterics among the postal clerks.
Worst I ever got was a wet case of primers. Fortunately it had not penetrated to the trays.
When I am sure I like a pattern, I order by the case. Numbers vary depending on caliber and weight to make it come out close to the maximum flat rate box of 70 lbs.
I have had them come in with crushed corners and inner bags or boxes broken, but none completely opened to spill bullets in the post office, which would undoubtedly cause hysterics among the postal clerks.
Worst I ever got was a wet case of primers. Fortunately it had not penetrated to the trays.
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This isn’t mine, but it’s consistent with what I have seen from Midway when ordering bullets. A recent post this week on Facebook regarding a damaged Midway shipment which lost bullets. Timely for this thread.
Average Joe
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I never order less than 1K and most of the time I order 2k. Never had a problem..
Chillydog
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Same here, no problems, usually order 2k to 6k at a time. RMR does an excellent job packing/taping. Hornady double boxes the bulk 223 bullets.
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The way Midway packs their Berry's Bulk Bullets did me the biggest favor ever in my reloading years. I was ordering bulk Berrys and every time there was a problem with the packaging. Mostly it broke open in the big box and I had to sort. The last time it happened, I started looking for more options and I discovered HyTek Coated Lead bullets. I have no ideal why anyone would use plated when coated is available. They are as clean and accurate and cost much less. The vendors I use, Missouri, SNS Casting and Brazos Bullets all pack their stuff well and make very high quality products. I can't fault Midway for anything else, but they sure did me a favor.
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I have placed many orders for my clubs members, we get better pricing “dealer” or better and the post office generally beats out the others and bring a different truck that we down stack onto pallets, they will wait if no forklift is available at the moment.
500, 55 grain bullets is only 3.9 lbs, order a few thousand pounds of bullets and often they won’t even bother picking them up to drop them.
Jesse Heywood
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MBC does a great job packaging. His boxes for 500 are stout, and they are well taped. Up to 4 boxes are bagged in plastic before being placed in another box.
My first order from MBC came in 2 boxes, one about 70 lbs., the second abou 25. I was at work, my ex, a big farm girl, answered the door. A fat, older mailman had sat one box down on the porch and asked if she could get the other box out of his truck. She did, and he quickly left. She carried the box inside and went to get the box off the porch. The SOB had moaned about how heavy the box was that he carried, the light one. I almost reported him, but didn't figure it would do any good.
My first order from MBC came in 2 boxes, one about 70 lbs., the second abou 25. I was at work, my ex, a big farm girl, answered the door. A fat, older mailman had sat one box down on the porch and asked if she could get the other box out of his truck. She did, and he quickly left. She carried the box inside and went to get the box off the porch. The SOB had moaned about how heavy the box was that he carried, the light one. I almost reported him, but didn't figure it would do any good.
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dredd
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As mentioned by others......
I like Midway, but I will not ever order bullets from them unless I am desperate.
I ordered bullets a few times over an extended period of time / years.
Every shipment had bullets loose in the box.
A couple of times there was leakage.
I know there are formulas for covering losses vs expenses, but I would think that Midway would spend the extra to use more than one piece of tape and one bubble bag.
This has been going on for years.
Midsouth, Graf, Missouri, RMR pack their products as if they were going to be handled by ( your carrier here ).
These guys spend an extra dollar not to have to field customer service complaints related to shipping damage and loss.
I have seen packages that have fork lift tracks on them and are beat to heck.
No packaging can beat a fork lift. LOL
But.... In the real world of shipping & handling, Midway just doesn't seem to get it.
I like Midway, but I will not ever order bullets from them unless I am desperate.
I ordered bullets a few times over an extended period of time / years.
Every shipment had bullets loose in the box.
A couple of times there was leakage.
I know there are formulas for covering losses vs expenses, but I would think that Midway would spend the extra to use more than one piece of tape and one bubble bag.
This has been going on for years.
Midsouth, Graf, Missouri, RMR pack their products as if they were going to be handled by ( your carrier here ).
These guys spend an extra dollar not to have to field customer service complaints related to shipping damage and loss.
I have seen packages that have fork lift tracks on them and are beat to heck.
No packaging can beat a fork lift. LOL
But.... In the real world of shipping & handling, Midway just doesn't seem to get it.
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In fairness, I also do think there is some malice among carriers towards 1) heavy packages not marked “fragile,” and 2) packages from Midway, which are clearly labeled in large print on the box.
It’s akin to flying with a rifle case - it WILL get damaged in some way. I’ve flown for business 20-35wks per year for over a decade, never do my bags get damaged beyond typically handling wear and tear - but my rifle cases ALWAYS come away with something that makes me ask, “wth, were they TRYING to break it?”
It’s akin to flying with a rifle case - it WILL get damaged in some way. I’ve flown for business 20-35wks per year for over a decade, never do my bags get damaged beyond typically handling wear and tear - but my rifle cases ALWAYS come away with something that makes me ask, “wth, were they TRYING to break it?”
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