Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by hAkron, Dec 30, 2011.
I bought it at Gander Mountain which is a sporting goods / hunting goods chain (not sure if they are national) they had 5 of them all in about the same condition all of them for $599, with a book, 1 mag, and a box. They are HK boxes, but not the original one that came with the gun as these were (from what I've read) German police trade-in pistols. Gander, from what I gathered while doing some research today, purchased a ton of these around 2009 and priced them at $599 and the price has stayed firmly there. The salesman who didn't know much about the pistol said that they got their supply from another store. They have had these (at least 1 at a time on display) in their case for a few months.
There was a long wait to get attention from a sales person so I did plenty of research on my iPhone and $599 seems to be a better price than what is going on guns america or gun broker.
And don't you know that the bullets in the mag are supposed to be facing the other way?
Yeah, can you explain that? I've seen people pose their mag with the top bullet in backward, and the example that comes to mind was on here a while ago and it was defended by showing the cover of some HK manual where the bullets were backward in the magazine...what's the story?
It's been a while since it happened, but IIRC HK put out an advertisement for either their MP5 or the USP where their photographer staged the gun with a magazine laying on top of it where you could see the bullets seated backwards in the mag. I think they also made the mistake on one of their manuals too. I might actually have one or both of those pics on my laptop.
I think its more of a hilarious mistake by HK's marketing department than an intentional act, but I'm sure someone has interpreted it that because it only appears on civilian advertisements and manuals, that it is another example of HK's dislike of civilian gun owners (a less probable explanation, I believe). Instructing us by example on how to put the bullets in (wrongly) and when we call in asking why our brand new gun doesn't work... "oh, you don't say? the round doesn't go off? what a shame"
As to why gun owners do it when staging pics of their own guns, I think that its mostly a subtle way to mock HK, kind of an inside joke that only gun guys would get.
I'm working on getting one right now. I've got my eye on one at a Gander Mountain as well. Yours looks MINT! Congrats!
I have no idea why I'm so strongly drawn to them. But I am!
You know not to shoot lead bullets, only jacketed rounds due to the gas port just off of the chamber. Some first time P7 shooters mistakenly put the gun in a death grip, not knowing that the grip requires very little strength to keep cocked. Once cocked hold as you would any other pistol.
Yes, it does get hot, especially if you shoot fairly rapidly. The most I've ever gone before having to put the gun down is 64 rounds, (I've got 8 mags), and at that point it was very hot. Take other guns to the range when you go to allow for cool-down time for your P7.
Don't get clean happy with the piston, it will accumulate some carbon. Only clean the piston with soft materials. The long tool above is the gas cylinder scraper, used to clean carbon fron the tube. You can buy them or a good reprduction at places that sell HK parts.
My favorite P7 picture...just because I love that chamber.
GM seems to be the best deal going. Mine has a bit of holster wear, but it was the pick of the litter as far as finish. They did have one there with a 4 digit serial number and a slightly different looking back strap, but the finish was a little rougher and there was no box.
I agree with what you say about being drawn to them. When I first saw a P7 I was curious why it looked so odd. The more research I did the more I realized what a marvel this little guy truely was.
I still need a good holster and a cheaper alternative to the expensive HK piston cleaning tools...maybe another magazine, and I'll be good to go.
Any soft nylon brush works on the piston, just take it real easy, and don't do anything to dull the sharp edges.
As for holsters, I recommend Matt DelFatti - worth the money and the wait!
Finally, I would agree that a second/third mag is a must. For awhile, these mags were going for over $100. Then, about a year or two ago, HK made another run of several thousand P7 mags. You can still find them now for about $60 before they dry up again. (You can run over these mags with your truck, pick them up, insert them in your P7 and fire away!)
Mine gets hot after about 50 rounds, rapid fire. I put it down, and pick up another gun to shoot for a few minutes. Sometimes my other P7.
Excellent advice! Thank you.
The things to be aware of are
1. Not to feed it lead bullets because of the gas port.
2. Not to leave any lube in the gas cylinder
3. Not to overly clean the gas piston, don't round off the edges of the piston rings
I've read that, and I've also read that it's much more of a problem on the P7's that were made prior to the M8 style updates to the platform. I took it out shooting today with the wife, who was in a bit of a hurry so I only put about 40 or 50 rounds through it. The last few I tried to do in somewhat rapid succession and it did begin to heat up a little bit. The gun is a joy to shoot! I wish I would have had a little more time to play, but sometimes my wife is into shooting, and sometimes she's just not...and when she's not, it's best to just take her out of there and get her into the mall or something.
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