"My hand trembles, but my heart does not."

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  1. CapnMac

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    This is an elegant turn of phrase.
     
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    Actually, it's not, except to the limits of modern connotations of the word.
    The Sophists used Rhetoric, but just to-hire (in a bit of Classical irony, Socrates hired Sophists to defend him at his trial, they failed).

    By the time of Ciscero, Sophists were seen as shallow, mere tutors to the wealthy, and only as deep as such instruction demanded.

    Rep Slaughter might be said to be using Pathos, but the obviously flawed Logos moots any pretense to rhetorical form. Enough so to make a person wonder how the Representative actually contends with those actually educated in discourse.

    I mean, really, it's not even a good tautology--If A then B; if B, then purple?
     
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    I did reference the Enchiridion earlier, but I am using the more modern definition of sophistry. That being a fallacial argument to the point of deception.
    She uses words like "they" and "we".
    Is she not us? Are the rights granted to "we the people" non-inclusive to her, Democrats, seniors, women, youngsters? Who? Why must others do without an object merely because she-he-it-they-them wish to be without?

    I have an unrealistic hatred for autos that cannot carry a set of golf clubs. Should other Americans go without death trap Kias because of my opinion? That would be pretty silly. Or ugly silly. One of them.

    "I not only use all the brains I have, but also all the brains I can borrow!"

    Thomas Woodrow Wilson, twenty eighth president of the United states.

    That is a great quote for my self. After all, I am a non colliegate hammer swinger who must admit to needing to look up some of the words in your post.;)
     
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    "Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty, the cause of America, cannot succeed with any lesser effort." Jhon F. Kennedy, January thirtieth, nineteen sixty one.

    This one leads me to believe the Democrat party is gone and replaced with the Socialist party. Which makes the Republican party the true democratic party, and me without a representative group at all.
     
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    I guess I didn't know that the edit privileges expire, makes sense, so I'll just keep quotes that are related to THR forum (there are a lot of good quotes above, but I'm trying to stay within the guidelines of the forum's topic and mission) going in new posts. Thanks for all the additional quotes that have been provided. Here are a few:

    Yes, we did produce a near perfect Republic, but will they keep it? Or, will they, in the enjoyment of Plenty, lose their memory of Freedom? Material abundance without Character is the surest way to destruction.
    attributed to Thomas Jefferson; possibly reattribution of Gibbon from History of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.

    --Provided by @CapnMac

    Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."
    Samuel Adams, The Report of the Committee of Correspondence, to the Boston Town Meeting, Nov. 20, 1772
    --Provided by @Demi-human

    "The Second Amendment only protects those who want all the guns they can have. The rest of us, we've got no Second Amendment. What are we supposed to do?"
    Rep. Louise Slaughter (D) NY, March twelfth, twenty thirteen.
    --Provided by @Demi-human

    Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty, the cause of America, cannot succeed with any lesser effort." Jhon F. Kennedy, January thirtieth, nineteen sixty one.
    --Provided by @Demi-human
     
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    A fitting quote given the current state of attack on the second amendment.

    "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
    Joseph Story regarding Amendment II - Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833
     
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    Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties. And not to Democrats alone do I make this appeal, but to all who love these great and true principles.
    --Abraham Lincoln, August 27, 1856 Speech at Kalamazoo, Michigan
     
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