My, how times have changed. (Handloader 50th anniversary edition)

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  1. morcey2

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    For those who don't have it, the latest issue of Handloader has a full reprint of the 1st ever issue. Just a couple of things I noticed in the old issue:

    1. In the "Clean Those Guns" column there's a reference to a blue ointment used to remove lead fouling. It's a mixture of tallow and mercury. :eek: What could possibly go wrong?
    2. There's an article about bullet swaging and the workers are standing next to the swaging machines complete with ginormous flywheels that I'm sure are really loud and have stuff under very high pressure.... Not a one of them is wearing eye protection and I don't think they're wearing hearing protection either. They might have plugs in, but I doubt it.
    3. There are no internet addresses in any of the ads. How are we supposed to find anything?
    4. There's a chronograph ad that promotes "All Transistor!" This is interesting to me because I have boxes upon boxes of vacuum tubes because I build guitar amps out of them. I don't know how big a tube-powered chrono would be, but I'd be willing to give it a try! :)
    5. Savage made a reloading press.
    6. A "Kurious Kartridges" column on the .2240 Triple-Neck Terror. It's actually quite funny. We need more of that.
    7. The 6.5 Rem Mag was the new ubermagnum. Now it's just a slightly-above-average 6.5 barrel burner.*
    8. There were lots more loading press manufacturers. Most have either gone out of business or been acquired.

    Of course, some things haven't changed:
    1. They ask if the "ancient" 30-06 is obsolete. That's still going on.
    2. Ken Waters says that Jack O'Connor likes the 270 Win.
    3. Conetrol scope mounts ads.
    4. Custom .17 cal ubervelocity wildcat/custom rifle ads.
    5. * (from #7 above). A 6.5 Rem Mag with a 1-12 twist barrel won't stabilize 160 gr bullets and is mediocre with 140 and even 120 gr bullets.

    Just some of my random thoughts. It's interesting to look through some of the older magazines, except for Shotgun News. That just reminds me of how much stuff I missed out on in the 90's and early 2000s.

    Matt
     
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    What a great read it was. In line with the ".2249 Triple-Neck Terror" article you referenced, I note that there was a considerable amount of madcap humor and good natured sarcasm in gun writing in the Sixties that is no longer present in our dead serious, tacti-kewl era. Most disappointing.
     
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    For those of us who were there almost at starting time (started my HL subscription in 1972) it was a very good read. Still have all the issues since, but not sure what to do with them. Is there a market?
     
  4. morcey2

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    I'd buy them, but my wife would probably shoot me. :)
     
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    Blue Ointment was used for lice. Not that risky if you use gloves, but I'm curious is they mentioned disposal.

    Mike
     
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    Great issue, really enjoyed reading it!
     
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    Blue Ointment was used for lice.

    Syphilis, too, in the pre-Salversan, pre-Penicillin era.
     
  8. Art Eatman

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    Mercury is good for getting rid of heavy lead fouling. Sure, be careful, but it's nowhere near a cause for fear and terror.
     
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    I thought almost all "gun writing" today was satirical hyperbole...
     
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    I loved the humor George Nonte used in the beginning of the 30-06 article. The information was still good but the opening paragraphs set a great tone. Some of those prices in the old ads made me salivate until I remembered what I was earning back then. :D

    Jeff
     
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    When I was in chemistry in high school we would play with mercury with our bare hands, now if you break a light bulb with a miniature drop of mercury in it they want you to call the hazmat team. Yes Mercury will remove lead but it also has a adverse effect on metal if all of it isn't removed.
     
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    When I was in high school chemistry, someone dropped a mercury thermometer and it shattered. The chemistry lab was shut down for a couple of days while some haz-mat team came in and cleaned it up.

    My father-in-law said that they used to use mercury to clean their coins. They'd get a little on their fingers and rub their nickels until they looked like new.

    Speaking of mercury and guns, mercury compounds were a very common component of rust-bluing solutions. I don't remember which gunsmithing book it was, but it had a chapter on rust bluing and almost every solution had mercury in it in the form of "corrosive sublimate" or mercuric chloride. Some didn't, but they weren't the preferred solutions because they took too long for the rust to form.

    Matt
     
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    One thing from long ago and no longer a practice:

    Adding toothpaste tubes to harden pure lead.



    (For your information, toothpaste tubes were tin.)

    Bob Wright
     
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    I bet the conetrol ad is the exact same as the ones they run today.
     
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    I remember playing with mercury in the high school lab. '61-62. Still alive and well.
     
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    Thanks for your post, Matt. Pretty good stuff. I like looking at late '50s motor sports publications for the same reasons. In fact, any magazine as old as I am is always an entertaining perusal.

    Hahaha...

    :)
     
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    There were plans for a counter chronograph in Gun Digest in the 1950s.
    About as big as my vacuum tube Magavox radio of a few years later.
     
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    I also own all the past issues of Handloader.

    I haven't subscribed that long, maybe 15 years; but I bought a big cardboard box full of them for $5 at a flea market.

    Problem is that I also bought the complete set on CD, so the paper ones are taking up space. And, I really don't care to read them any more. For years, I read everything like this I could lay my hands on. I would buy old loading manuals and study them in depth. But, over the last few years, I totally lost interest. I load my standard loads and that's it.
     
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    I bought the DVD collection several years ago.
    Now I just buy the yearly update.
    Very easy to store.
    And, I have every issue.

    I'm still sorting through several gun magazine subscriptions that date back to 1962.
    I found someone who wanted the Bow and Arrow magazine subscription and sent it to him.
    (This was complete from the first issue.)

    Love to go through these old magazines, but I've run out of storage space.

    Steve
     
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    two years back now I started tossing magazines, mostly gun magazines. I had some from the late 60's I bought new and a lot between now and then.

    They went into the paper recycling bin at the county dump.

    Bizarre thing was the very next trip found someone had done the same with Popular science and popular mechanics starting in 1958......it was a near thing but had I returned with a truck load the Spousal Unit would have tied me to a stake and used them to burn me, and rightly so. I did pick eight or ten I though had interesting covers and THE BOY read them all cover to cover and wanted to talk about what he had read as though since it was all from my lifetime I knew all about it.... he thought. He now understand my lament of "Where is my flying car?" much better though.

    I did find one late 1970's Shotgun News in my stuff.....that was painful and it did go to the dump. They used to make great fireplace starters.

    -kBob
     
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