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My letter to Skyline Chili

Discussion in 'Activism' started by bthr22, Feb 19, 2013.

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  1. bthr22

    bthr22 Member

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    I discovered this weekend that Skyline Chili does not support concealed carry. So I just emailed their corporate office to express my opinion and to inform them that I will no longer support their business until their policy is changed. Here is a copy of the email I sent:

    Hello,

    My name is Ryan C*****, and I have been a big supporter of Skyline Chili my whole life. Unfortunately, we don't have a Skyline near my college, so it is a special treat to go to Skyline when I go home.

    This past weekend, I went home for the first time this semester. Naturally, I went to Skyline. As I walked in, I noticed a no firearms sign on the door. I am licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and had to return to my truck and lock my gun away. Concealed Carry is a very important issue to me, and I believe that law abiding citizens should not be restricted. I am trained, had an FBI background check, and been licensed to carry. A "No Gun" sign will not stop a criminal. It only restricts, and endangers the law abiding citizens.

    I am extremely torn here. I love Skyline Chili, but I will stand up for my beliefs. So, until Skyline's policy on Concealed Carry changes, I will no longer be supporting your business, nor will I recommend it to anyone else. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you.

    Ryan C*****

    I think this is fairly concise and expresses my thoughts well enough without becoming long winded, but your opinions are welcome. If I receive a reply, I will post it! Thanks!

    Bthr22
     
  2. Ryanxia

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    Good for you. If you really want to spice things up, take a picture of your next restaurant bill and send it to them saying this is what you would have spent with them had they had common sense policies.
     
  3. bthr22

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    Haha, I'd like to do that. Their contact form doesn't give an email address to directly contact them. It's one of the contact forms with separate info. fields and a small box to put your question or complaint. No way to attach images. They do list their mailing address for physical letters though. Maybe I'll just send the actual receipt! :evil:
     
  4. bthr22

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    Well, I received a reply. Basically saying, IMO, that my business is not as valuable to them as is it should be. Here is the reply:


    We received your comments regarding our company policy of prohibiting firearms in our restaurants. We are sorry this has negatively impacted your ability to enjoy our restaurants. We never want to lose a customer and we can assure you that this was not a decision that was made lightly. However, based on input from local police, our trade associations and our corporate counsel, we determined that this was the best route for us. We recognize and respect the fact that there are different viewpoints on this issue.

    Sincerely,


    Skyline Chili, Inc.



    So, moving forward. I will no longer support Skyline, period. I will make sure none of my friends or family support them. So, if anyone lives near a Skyline, you are more than welcome to join me in a boycott, or voicing your opinion. Here is Skyline's contact page if you would like to send an email/letter:

    http://www.skylinechili.com/contact_us.php

    bthr22
     
  5. tuj

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    oh man, I love skyline too.... displaced Cincinnati boy here...
     
  6. Texshooter

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    NEVER stop fighting for what is right.

    Good job.
     
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    "...based on input from local police, our trade associations and our corporate counsel..."

    Ask for quotes and/or names of who their "input" was from.
     
  8. ArcherandShooter

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    I'd bet it was the corporate counsel, afraid that if the company doesn't forbid guns then they are potentially liable for damages if a gun is ever used in one of their restaurants.

    That kind of idiocy will never go away until some company is successfully sued by someone who convinces a jury their injury is the fault of the company who not only prohibited lawful self-defense but then failed to provide adequate effective on-site security.

    Not that I ever expect to see that ...
     
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    Make sure they are liable if someone gets shot by a criminal--because the criminal read the "no-guns" sign.
     
  10. Torian

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    I could care less about whiney liberal "gun free" zone signs at restaurants or similar venues.

    The only laws I'm concerned about are the ones that are actually on the books.

    Of course, nothing wrong with highlighting a BS policy to begin with.
     
  11. Shurshot

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    here in Ohio those signs went up at Skyline as soon as the concealed carry law passed years ago.

    the OP should have left and not given them their business and then wrote his letter. by telling them he went back and locked his gun up and came back in to eat some chilly just likely made them chuckle because they still got his money while making him leave himself unarmed.
     
  12. Ryanxia

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    THIS. Please. Also the comment about making sure they accept all financial and legal responsibilities for the safety of their customers and their children.

    (Should a Sandy Hook incident occur they will pay all medical, financial, legal and emotional damages that would otherwise not occur if one were to protect their own lives)
     
  13. bthr22

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    My response

    I'm going to post a draft response before I send it to Skyline Corporate. Input/corrections are greatly appreciated.

    To whom it may concern,

    I would like to know where you got your local police input. What exactly was their advice? Also, what kind of statistics do you have showing that "gun free zones" reduce crime? I am very skeptical of your reasoning as I have never seen evidence correlating "gun free zones" with less crime.

    I should also note that legally, a business allowing concealed carry is not liable for damage or injury in the event of a robbery or other self defense scenario. Therefore, patrons should not be stripped of their Second Amendment rights. I look forward to hearing from you and working with you to make your establishments safer and friendly to everyone.

    Ryan C*****

    I appreciate all input. I'm writing this as I have to leave for class and probably left out or added too much of something. This is my first time fighting for something like this. Thanks, for the support!

    Ryan
     
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    They got their "local police input" from the Chief of police probably... he got his "input" from the political hacks who got him his REMF job.
     
  15. Invisible Swordsman

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    I would remove tghe language about liability, since the Ohio Revised Code provides immunity.


    2923.126 [Effective Until 3/27/2013] Duties of licensed individual.
    (C)(2)(a) A private employer shall be immune from liability in a civil action for any injury, death, or loss to person or property that allegedly was caused by or related to a licensee bringing a handgun onto the premises or property of the private employer, including motor vehicles owned by the private employer, unless the private employer acted with malicious purpose. A private employer is immune from liability in a civil action for any injury, death, or loss to person or property that allegedly was caused by or related to the private employer’s decision to permit a licensee to bring, or prohibit a licensee from bringing, a handgun onto the premises or property of the private employer. As used in this division, “private employer” includes a private college, university, or other institution of higher education.
     
  16. bthr22

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    Invisible Swordsman,
    Good catch. I'll edit it.
     
  17. Russ Jackson

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    I just sent a letter.

    I heard that you do not support concealed carry for licensed individuals. As a regular patron I am sorry but I will no longer patronize your business. I guess Camp Washington, Dixie Chili, Gold Star or Steak & Shake will now get my business. I have three Sons and a Daughter that will stop eating at Skyline also. I figure we each eat at least once a month with our spouses and children. I figure with our families at $35 dollars each or more per month X 5 = $175 per month or $2100 per year in lost sales. I will be sure to pass this information to all my service providers in the flooring industry of which we have over 80 crews in the Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, and northern Kentucky. hopefully they and their families will stop eating there also. If half stop and they eat just $40 per month $40 X 40 = $1600 per month or $19,200 per year in lost sales. If you decide on revisiting your stance on the 2nd amendment and concealed carry for licensed responsible citizens let me know.

    Here is the Link again:http://www.skylinechili.com/contact_us.php
     
  18. Sav .250

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    Way to stand up for your convictions! Never heard of Skyline Chili though.
     
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    Russ,
    I like the figures you include! Let us know what they say!
     
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    It's a Cincinnati thing. Sorta like saying "please" rather than "say again".:evil:
     
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    No Skyline up here in Michigan, but as a displaced KYian who spent a lot of time in the Cincy area, I spent a lot of money at Skyline (although I did prefer Goldstar). I will also send them a letter, and post a copy on their Facebook page as I 'unlike' them. I still have a lot of friends in Northern KY, and will hopefully convince some of them to take their business elsewhere.
     
  22. bthr22

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    I replied to their response to my initial email. I sent the draft I had posted this morning, with the addition at the start thanking them for their prompt response. We will see what I hear back.

    Ryan
     
  23. thorazine

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    I added "and your chilli is sub-par on the best of days" =D
     
  24. wickedsprint

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    I never cared for their chili anyways.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. I forwarded to Buckeye Firearms Assoc.
    I will stay away from Skyline and write a letter.
     
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