Discussion in 'Legal' started by fmjcafe, Oct 20, 2003.
"I'm going to Steak & Shake instead. They value the rights and the safety of their customers, and they let ALL of their patrons benefit from the choice of some customers to carry. In fact, if posting your establishment ends up attracting criminals here, I'm glad that I'll be over at Steak & Shake. Thanks for the warning, and have a nice day."
Well Done, fmjcafe!
I`m not worthy!
Thank you for raising your concern regarding the "concealed weapons"
issue in Missouri. We always appreciate hearing from our loyal guests and
we make every effort to fairly address each concern we receive.
As you probably know, in conjunction with the Missouri legislature's
decision to allow private citizens to carry concealed weapons, the
legislature carved out numerous exceptions including a broad exception
allowing businesses "open to the public" to post signs prohibiting
concealed weapons on their premises. After carefully considering whether
to post such signs, we as a company concluded that our concern for the
safety of our guests and employees compelled us to exercise our rights
outlined in the statute and post the signs. We certainly realize the
"right to bear arms" is an undeniable, constitutionally protected right;
unfortunately, as a company charged with providing a safe environment to
our guests and employees, we are forced to consider "worst case" scenarios
and focus on the inevitable reality that some people will abuse their
rights under this statute, perhaps tragically. We cannot allow that risk
to endanger our employees and guests.
I hope you appreciate the consideration we have given to this issue.
We have a sixty-nine year history of serving millions of guests who are
consistently loyal to us. We hope you will continue to be one of our loyal
Their contact info is a few posts above....
Hmmm ... their corporate headquarters are very close to school ... I may walk over there some time and see if I can have a chat with them about this.
I couldn't find a reference on line because it happened before the WWW, but when I was an undergrad at the University of Florida, in Gainesville Florida, in the late 1980's there was a grisly murder at the local S&S. It seems that a disgruntled employee came it at closing time, forced the 4 or 5 people working at the time into the freezer at gun point and executed them all with head shots. It has ever since been known in Hogtown as "Murder burger" or "Steak and Shoot". Think what a legal concealed handgun could have done in this case.
The only only online reference I could find using Google was from some haunted places site....no real news stories
Gainesville - Steak and Shake on 13th Street- Five people were murdered in the wee hours of the morning inside the walk-in freezer by a disgruntled employee. Current employees will not stay in there alone anytime of day or night.
Today I got this:
Starting to look better.
My particular email was bounced from Taritha Braun to Dave Milne to Barry Paige (they left the forward stubs and notes in).
Don't give up after you get a form letter. Keep pressing and sometimes you'll get through to somebody.
Then we need go eat there and email scans of the dinner receipts.
I will do so next time I am any where near one of those places.
What dkochan is suggesting is the absolute WRONG way to do it. On THR, we follow the law. PERIOD.
BIG difference between a law and a corporate policy. I will carry. PERIOD.
I think it was important that the letter be written. Would have been better if 500 letters were written and they felt it on their bottom line.
posting here is a double edged sword. if you start a new thread about something, invariably someone will pull the old "don't you know how to use a search function?"
so this time instead of starting a new thread they found the old one.
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