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My new Mossberg 500 "RoadBlocker"

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by sarduy, Jan 4, 2010.

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  1. sarduy

    sarduy Member

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    hello forks, i know a few things about rifles and handguns, but i'm complete new to shotguns and i would like some help. i dont know the loads for shotguns other than the slugs, to me all others are the same, i read about the #00 or #000 something like that. Don't get me wrong, i have shot shotguns before with slugs and i really love it, in fact i just got my first shotgun today, (mossberg 500 road-blocker) and when to wallmart and got a few boxes of slugs and some 'winchester super speed xtra" but i have a question, What does it mean if a shotgun shell is a six shot? and can anyone explain me how to understand the loads?

    Thanks.

    By the way, this my new shotgun.

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  2. hoodfu

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    Bird and buck shot are numbered, higher the number, the smaller the pellets, and usually the more of them in the load. 7.5 birdshot is typical skeet/trap load, with 00 buck (one of the largest sizes) is excellent for defense (can penetrate walls though). About halfway down is a good set of tables that shows number of pellets/size of pellet/sizing number for bird and buck loads.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell
     
  3. Todd A

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    Here is a link to a chart for the differant sizes of shot....

    #6 is 0.1090" in diameter and has app 225 pellets per oz.

    http://www.wilsonprecision.com/shotinfo.html


    Now take out your new shotgun and put a few hundred shells through it.:)

    In my opinion ,stick to lowbrass target or field loads for now till you get the hang of the PGO. The can be brutal on your hand. (A normal shoulder stock is far more comfortable).
     
  4. highorder

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    That's a nice shotgun.

    Buy a full stock like this for $42.50, remove that crap from the muzzle, and shoot that thing!
     
  5. hoodfu

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    I'd be curious to know what the increase in noise is for the people to the left and right of the shooter with that break on there.
     
  6. ga red clay

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    The gas blow out toward the upper-sides of my mossy with ported barrel is pretty extreme. I cant imagine what it's like with that brake. I would def. take the brake off the end, maybe leave the shield on, and shoot the mess out of it. If its your first, youll find out after one of those boxes of slugs if you really like that pistol grip. I've always hated every PG i've ever shot. You cant aim/point worth crap, and dont dare putting it next to your eye trying to aim, or you'll be looking at a nice little shiner.

    Also, pay attention to the chambering of your gun. There are 2.75" shells, 3" shells (sometimes called magnums), and 3.5" shells (sometimes called magnums or super magnums). There are some smaller or longer shells out there, but those three will cover what you will find in most stores. This is literally talking about how long each shell is. The larger the shell size, the more shot/charge it can carry. Your gun is chambered for UP TO 3" shells. 2.75 (2 and three quarter on the box) and 3 inch shells will fit.

    There's my contribution. Welcome to the wonderful world of scatterguns.
     
  7. RandKL

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    That brake works. Buckshot feels like light target loads. You're going to enjoy that.

    Keep the strap. It's there for a reason. Anyone tells you otherwise probably doesn't know the reason.

    The aimpoint....that's a pretty far reach. Pistol grip shooting should be done at chest level with your eyeball instinctively lining up the barrel and target. If you have it up high enough to use the aimpoint, you're looking to get hurt.

    Great gun. If you need any tech help, feel free to ask.

    rich
     
  8. The Captain

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    I pick up and finger that shotgun at every show I attend. I need another shotgun like another hole in the head.

    But, MAN i want it!

    :D
     
  9. buckeye8

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    The red-dot actually serves a useful purpose: It forces the user to position the pistol-gripped shotgun close enough to his face to give them the smack upside the head that he deserves! :neener:

    All in good fun. If you like it, go have fun with it!

    Edit: And RandKL is right about the strap. When I first bought my 500 SPX (see, I'm not fuddy), I thought the strap was the most pointless feature on it. After using it for awhile, I have found it to be one of the most indispensable features of the gun.
     
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  10. sarduy

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    Thanks for all the info, it help me understand the shotshells, BTW, the reddot works just fine
     
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    I'll respect your insight when you can say a single thing about WHY you like it and why it would work effectively for you other than it looks cool. If you bought it because it looks cool, well okay that's your right. But don't discredit the opinions of those who think it's a silly piece of junk until you can tell them why it isn't.


    So far, RandKL has been the only one with a thoughtful stance on why it works. I can respect that.


    My personal take on it is that it's a great STARTING point for a shotgun...whether the brake works or not I don't know, but I can handle the recoil of standard full power 00 buck all day long so it would not be worth the extended length and price markup. The red dot thing is a silly idea to begin with and the fact that you considered it and again defended it proves to everyone you know very little about the subject.

    Sorry to put it out there, but I think it needed to be. Now take the slugs you bought out with the gun like it is, and see what your groupings are using the red dot. I hope you have a good dentist. Please videotape the excursion.
     
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    In Sarduy's defence = YOU can handle slugs and buckshot all day -- fine , so can I -- BUT -- it is A FACT that a muzzle brake/porting/compinsator WILL REDUCE RECOIL even for hairy chested men like us.

    My fastest time to clear a table of 5 bowling pins is under three and a half seconds , with OO buck and a stock Rem. 1100 --------- with my "unlimited" Rem. 1100 , with Taso red dot optic and custom compinsator -- my best time is around 2.5 seconds for a 5 Pin table.
     
  14. Wildyams

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    A little off topic.. but my mom has been looking at getting a gun for when she goes up to our lake place by herself. right now its just a travel trailer on a piece of property. Its on the edge of grizzly territory and there are a lot of black bears in the area, so thats the main concern.

    The other day i saw a Mossberg 500 Cruiser, which looks just like the roadblocker without the brake. I thought the cruiser would be great for the small space.

    Do you guys think that would be a good gun for the scenario? does the muzzle break work very well? (my mom isn't really a gun person and doesn't shoot much, so if it reduced the recoil she would like that)
     
  15. Justin

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    Sarduy, RandKL and I completely disagree on the utility of pistol-grip only shotguns.

    That said, he knows what he's talking about, and his admonishment to remove the red-dot and shoot the shotgun in a position that doesn't involve putting it next to your face is extremely good advice that you'll do well to follow. Otherwise it is quite possible that you will injure yourself.
     
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    why is there a red dot on a pistol you need to shoot from the hip?
     
  17. Rshooter

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    Well, now you see that standard stock shotgunners are a stuffy lot. You dropped in with a PGO as a new shotgunner so they think you are ignorant. It is just an unfortunate fact that they believe any PGO shotgunner is ignorant. Elitism I guess.

    Do lose the Aimpoint. Learn to shoot the gun as Massad Ayoob recommends, as a rifle and pistol shooter you are educated on this man's experience.
     
  18. lobo9er

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    wildyams

    pistol grip shotgun is a bad idea for your mom in my opinion. If shes not a gun person 12 ga. recoil might be a bit much for her also. if you want to get her a shotgun a 20 ga. might be better also a semi auto would also help cut down on some recoil. A pistol caliber rifle might be a good option too. something to think about. Take her to a range see what she likes maybe she will find shooting to be a new hobby.
     
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  19. Dave McCracken

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    It's not elitism, Rshooter, at least on my part.

    It's experience.

    PGO shotguns work well in the movies, but in the real world they are awkward, hard kicking, inaccurate handguns and a major step back in effectiveness from a standard stocked shotgun.

    Anyone disagreeing with that can show up with their PGO and correct me.

    I'm not hard to find, but in ten years or so not ONE PGO fan has taken up the gauntlet.

    Either you PGO fans have secret ranges someplace where you hone your skills or.....

    YOU'RE FULL OF IT!!!
     
  20. lobo9er

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    folding stock if its the size issue for storage.
     
  21. sarduy

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    i'm just going to add a stock and see how it works

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  22. Justin

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    Dave, I've seen a guy show up to a match with a PGO shotgun. The results were, to put it charitably, underwhelming.
     
  23. ga red clay

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    Thats a great idea. Also, I dont think you are ignorant. I am just assuming from the original post that you haven't used shotguns enough in an array of situations to realize the cons of PGO shotguns over stocked ones. I think once you get that stock, youll understand why PGO are indeed a fun novelty, but maybe not a useful addition for a serious tool.

    Also, yams, your mom would be well served by a stock mossy 500. Get her some reduced recoil home defense loads, and she should be fine with it. Or, as others have stated, get her a 20 guage. Both would offer an acceptable first weapon.
     
  24. lobo9er

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    nice. Besure it allows for easy slide release manipulation. some don't, pick up a mossy in a shop with a factory stock you can see everything is easy to reach. some of the aftermarket stocks bring your hand a little farther back. Have fun shoot'n.
     
  25. Dave P

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    After a few handful of shells from my mossberg with a pistol grip, it was obvious that I couldn't hit doodly squat with it. So I went to the full stock - much nicer.

    And after struggling one night to handle a flashlight and the pump and a peeping tom, it was obvious that a 45 and flashlight is much more manageable for home defense work.
     
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