the sigma is not a great pistol,but hardly junk.I carry a .40 VE everyday and I have 100% confidence in it's reliability. the accuracy part is up to me. It does the job that it was designed to do.It is a reliable light weight pistol in a respectable caliber all at a reasonable price. do yourself a favor and get a good quality leather holster.
My New S&W Sigma .40 review
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DougDubya
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I always get what I pay for in internet opinions.
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sarduy
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i'm sure the highpoint pistol is not even near the quality/fit/finish/performance of a new SW sigma( i own a high point c9), lets remember that a sigma is not $150 gun but if you have the extra 100 dollars, for the love of Guns, i recommend you go and get one and find out what 250 can buy.
BTW this doesn't apply to you does it?
note: the HighPoint C9 may not be as good as the Sigma, but their Carbine...ohh they are awesome.
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Extremely Pro Gun
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Congrats! I bet you didnt know that the sights are hangin off the side of the gun. Sigmas are the worst handgun ever made and it made me despise S&W. I actually owned one back when i didnt know anything about guns.
here you go sir: http://www.sigsauer.com/CustomerService/klunker.aspx
here you go sir: http://www.sigsauer.com/CustomerService/klunker.aspx
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HippieMagic
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I shot a sigma in 9mm. I seriously hated it. I don't care what anyone says that trigger is HORRIBLE. It isn't the heavy pull it is the lack of a distinct breaking point. You have no idea at which point the gun is going to fire and when shooting it I always had to pull all the way back on the trigger... discover that there was no bang... readjust my finger... then try to get the trigger back even further. It fits my hands fine but it felt like my finger had to be behind the rest of my fingers in order to get the gun to fire which in a situation where my life is on the line I need the trigger to work without the need of me re-adjusting my grip. I was able to hit a target where I wanted to so long as I took careful aim but I think in a rapid fire situation it would result in a lot of misses. The gun itself is fine. I don't like the look of it or the feel of the trigger but the actual gun seems to fire fine.
As for the gun coming with 2 shell casings I believe those are the test fired casings included because some states require casings from each handgun to be kept on record for testing purposes in case the gun is suspect in a crime. If they found casings from a .40, you were a suspect, and they had you on record for owning a .40 handgun they could take those casings, pull up your file, grab the pouch with your serial number on it, and if they match you are pretty much busted. I think only a couple states actually keep those casings though. I know handguns in WV always seem to come with them.
As for the gun coming with 2 shell casings I believe those are the test fired casings included because some states require casings from each handgun to be kept on record for testing purposes in case the gun is suspect in a crime. If they found casings from a .40, you were a suspect, and they had you on record for owning a .40 handgun they could take those casings, pull up your file, grab the pouch with your serial number on it, and if they match you are pretty much busted. I think only a couple states actually keep those casings though. I know handguns in WV always seem to come with them.
DougDubya
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Ah, the hate-orade (not you Hippie) begins to pour.
The trigger is a valid problem, but there are fixes for it.
The trigger is a valid problem, but there are fixes for it.
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sarduy
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sarduy
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$500 seems way to high for a sigma...
Dazen
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That was the price when they first came out. I don't remember the exact price. I do know it was close enuff for me to say $500.
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sarduy
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will the sigma .40 last the same as the 9mm with the harder recoil?
When doing my research waaaay back (before buying a Sigma), I read the Sigma was designed as a 40-thus making the 9 overbuilt...unlike a certain other polymer gun (which shall go unnamed), that was reportedly designed as a 9, thus making it's larger calibers underbuilt?
Just one more reason I went with a Sigma instead of that "other" brand!
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Well different strokes for different folks! I like my Sigma 9VE more than my M&P9
How dare you, to insult the M&P gods
...for some reasons i feel the name way, i have shot a M&P and to be honest, the sigma just feel better, plus one you master the heavy trigger, you can shoot any pistol accurate
BTW, i shot it this thrusday and all i can say is WOW...
, the first round ever with this gun was a silhouette bullseye, followed by the second shot right next to it followed by the other 12 rounds all in the big hole with slow aimed fire.once i finish that mag, i loaded the other and bang...bang..bang....all 14 rounds shots at center mass very very fast, the good thing is that i didn't have any kind of failure, then i tried some double taps to the top followed by 3 shots to center mass of the silhouette, after all 100 rounds i was very happy with the reliability and accuracy of the pistol. i know i'm only at the 100 rounds mark but there 100 rounds were trouble free.
after that i shot the glock 17 and my fairly new 1911 without any problems, and the trigger felt soooo light
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REAPER4206969
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The M&P is nothing like the Sigma.
REAPER4206969
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You payed five hundred 1995 dollars for a Sigma?
How many tubes of Preparation H did it take to relive the pain?REAPER4206969
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Blasphemy.
NinjaFeint
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Local gun store is selling them for 250 next weekend. I may have to pick one up.
I like mine so much I just had meprolight sights put on it. I have about 500 rounds through mine. I was horrible at first because of the trigger, now that I'm used to it I'm fairly accurate and also better with EVERY other gun I own
DougDubya
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Because it's so fun to watch the beer budget guns get as much loyalty as the champaign pistols.
ronzorelli
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I have a Sigma 9mm. It's my very first pistol. I have zero problems with the strong trigger, but I'm a bigger guy with big hands and it doesn't bother me at all. My friend John hates it, but he's a bit of a whiner so... whatever (if he's reading this, "John, I'm kidding!") He gripes about the heavy pull on the trigger every time he shoots it. Also gripes about the double action, minus the hammer. I don't mind that either.
It shoots well. I'm a little all over the place on the outside edges of a grouping, but I think it's because I simply don't shoot enough to get completely used to the strong pull on the trigger.
Here's a pic of my Sigma, and my CHL qualifying result.
(if he's reading this, "John, I'm kidding!") He gripes about the heavy pull on the trigger every time he shoots it. Also gripes about the double action, minus the hammer. I don't mind that either.It shoots well. I'm a little all over the place on the outside edges of a grouping, but I think it's because I simply don't shoot enough to get completely used to the strong pull on the trigger.
Here's a pic of my Sigma, and my CHL qualifying result.
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The pistol is reliable, but the trigger is aweful. You actually have to cosciously use muscles in order to make the trigger break. I would much rather have a Glock for carry and the range. Glocks are light, accurate, and have triggers that break crisply and without the need to pull hard.
Also, having one in the pipe while carrying is a nonissue. Do you know how many people carry Glocks, Sigmas, etc. with one in the pipe. The majority of police departments have Glocks and their officers usually carry a full mag and one in the chamber. When you are confronted by an armed criminal, you don't want to fumble with racking the slide; you want to draw and fire. Unless you plan on squeezing the trigger while your weapon is holstered or you sqeeze it while you are removing it from you holster, then there is no issue with having a round in the chamber.
Also, having one in the pipe while carrying is a nonissue. Do you know how many people carry Glocks, Sigmas, etc. with one in the pipe. The majority of police departments have Glocks and their officers usually carry a full mag and one in the chamber. When you are confronted by an armed criminal, you don't want to fumble with racking the slide; you want to draw and fire. Unless you plan on squeezing the trigger while your weapon is holstered or you sqeeze it while you are removing it from you holster, then there is no issue with having a round in the chamber.
Kinda reminds me of the old joke…how do you double the value of a Yug…er, Sigma…
You fill the tan…er, put night sights on it!
Now you’re getting it grasshopper!
Kinda like training with ankle weights, ain’t it?
As a former bicyclist, my training bike had all kinds of junk/weight on it (and folks often laughed at it), but when I went to my racebike…boy could I fly uphill!
As stated earlier-folks that whine about the trigger might consider using the Sigma as a training tool since nobody seems to learn on DA revolvers any more.
They might find as the poster in here did that his shooting improved as he learned how to use the Sigma’s heavier trigger.
Really?
If you’ll read long enough, you’ll see reports of guns that “don’t need no stinkin’ safety” discharging by snagging a windbreaker waist drawstring etc.
Then there’s this...
Now…we don’t know for sure, but the paper makes it sound like it was not in a holster?
I checked with the guys at the gun shop, and they say word was it was a Glock (local PD carries Glocks, and since he was retired local PD...).
(Perhaps the individual should have read Ayoob’s take on Mexican carry with a Glock vs. an XD).
‘Bout what I paid for ‘em (maybe slightly less) back when I was building my S&W luggage collection (free bags with purchase).
If I ran across one for $250 today, there’s a good chance I might walk out with it (can always use another truck gun)!
And no doubt a number of folks that don’t carry with one in the chamber would do so if they were cops. After all…how many times a day does a cop have a confrontation with a criminal vs. the average citizen?
Rather than automatically denigrate folks who don’t carry with one in the pipe (which seems to happen a lot in here), perhaps those folks should simply be viewed as thoughtful individuals that have weighed the odds, thought of the ramifications of an AD, and decided accordingly.
What really scares me is the number folks that "don't need no stinkin' safety" carrying in horizontal shoulder rigs!
Onward Allusion
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I recently added an el-cheapo NC Star laser ($20) to my SW9GVE and took it to the range this past weekend. Literally shot through the same 10X hole at 7 yards - over & over again. Ran through 3 boxes w/o issues. Bud's still got 'em for $299 delivered + a $50 rebate (or 2 mags) from S&W.
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