My new Sig Sauer P229 M11A1. Kind of one of my Grail Guns.

Mars5l said:
I think it's mostly the grips, just feels better in the hand. The other is a 229 Elite in .40sw. I'll never not want a hammer fired Sig without the SRT
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I understand. Thanks.
In reading the Sig Sauer site online it looks like an SRT can be installed on any of the P2xx Sigs. I’m not sure if it’s something one would have to send their gun in to Sig Sauer to have done.
 
Here’s a question I can’t seem to find an answer to:
Can P226 mags be used in a P229 and vice versa?
I know the mags for my P229 actually say “Sig Sauer P229-1” on the side, which leads me to believe these mags only fit the P229. The more modern P229.

While I am asking questions:
Is there an information site or book for Sig Sauer pistols that lays out the nuances, variations and history of these pistols?
All the info I find is on forums and it’s piece meal.
 
I have been packing an issued Glock of one type or another for almost 2 decades. Here’s my conspiracy theory- Sigs are more accurate, better grip angle, and the DA/SA is safer and better (with a bit of practice). But, they cost more and demand a bit more training due to the trigger.

I’d trade my issued Glock 9 for this P229 .40 tomorrow if the man would let me. IMG_3819.jpeg
 
Pat Riot said:
I know the mags for my P229 actually say “Sig Sauer P229-1” on the side, which leads me to believe these mags only fit the P229. The more modern P229.
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The P229-1 isn't a "more modern" P229

When the 229 was originally listed in their lineup, they actually came in two sizes.

The 229 chambered in .40 and 357SIG frame had different dimensions than the frame of the 9mm 229. The 9mm 229 has the same dimensions as the imported 228...which it was intended to replace. For all practical purposes, the 9mm 229 was a 228 with a milled slide with slightly different contours (half height cocking serrations)

So, .40/357SIG mags would not fit in the 9mm 229's magwell. When SIG later stopped importing the 228, they decided to build the 9mm 229 on the same frame as the .40/357SIG guns...hence the designation 229-1.

Since the 226 9mm mags would fit in the 228, they would also fit in the original 9mm 229. They should also fit in the 229-1, but will be a bit looser

The original M-11 was based on the 228. The version built on the 229-1 is called the M-11A1
 
Peakbagger46 said:
I have been packing an issued Glock of one type or another for almost 2 decades. Here’s my conspiracy theory- Sigs are more accurate, better grip angle, and the DA/SA is safer and better (with a bit of practice). But, they cost more and demand a bit more training due to the trigger.
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Cost. I think that is the driving factor.

After shooting Glocks for 20 years and pretty much no other semiautos the trigger of the P229 will take me a bit to dial in. Before I shot Glocks I was strictly a 1911 guy, so that was a weird transition as well. What impressed me with the Sig P228 & P229 that my friend let me try out was in that time period I was solely shooting 1911s yet I shot his pistols pretty accurately for never having touched one.
I cannot say the same about my 75 round trial yesterday, but my gun is new and not broken in and I need to find the most accurate ammo for it. I look forward it.

I think I am going to track down some Sig Sauer target ammo and try it just to see if their ammo works well in their gun. It’s the ammo they recommend, of course. 😉
 
The cost of the SIG's was the main reason I switched over to Glocks. I always liked the SIG's, other than that part, and have always shot well with them. If you're a DA revolver shooter, that DA trigger isn't a problem at all, and SIG's DA trigger is one of the better ones.

At the time I switched, your average P226 was going for around $750 with night sights. A Glock 17 was a tad less than $400. And Glock mags/accessores were considerably cheaper. Almost a "2 fer" deal and hard to not do it when you do the math.
 
A Sig P229 came into my world five years ago. The motivation then was an experiment to find a quality self-defense piece as Glocks were just not doing it. I remembered back in the day that the POA (Plain Old Agents) flocked to Glocks while the cognoscenti held onto Sig P228s.

Fast forward to today. The P229 is my primary carry piece. It is more accurate than I, which does not take much. The SA/DA nature is inconsequential with training.

In short, you did well. Try out the HST 124gr HPs.

 
Peakbagger46 said:
I have been packing an issued Glock of one type or another for almost 2 decades. Here’s my conspiracy theory- Sigs are more accurate, better grip angle, and the DA/SA is safer and better (with a bit of practice). But, they cost more and demand a bit more training due to the trigger.

I’d trade my issued Glock 9 for this P229 .40 tomorrow if the man would let me.View attachment 1256590
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Nice shooting. Especially the orange target. What range do you fire, if you don’t mind?
 
trackskippy said:
The cost of the SIG's was the main reason I switched over to Glocks. I always liked the SIG's, other than that part, and have always shot well with them. If you're a DA revolver shooter, that DA trigger isn't a problem at all, and SIG's DA trigger is one of the better ones.

At the time I switched, your average P226 was going for around $750 with night sights. A Glock 17 was a tad less than $400. And Glock mags/accessores were considerably cheaper. Almost a "2 fer" deal and hard to not do it when you do the math.
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In the 90’s and early 2000’s I stuck with my 1911s. I wanted to buy an Sig but money was tight. I got deals on my 1911s but Sigs were never “on sale”.
In 2005 I wanted something new. I needed a change. A friend loaned me a Glock 17 for a couple of IDPA matches. My first was a G34 gen 3. The Glock was half the price of an Sig P226. That is how I got started with Glocks.
I am 64 now. A while back I decided to get the guns I had wanted for over 30 years. Especially after I discovered I could get them “New”. I am not a fan of used autoloaders. It’s a quirk of mine.
Glocks are definitely affordable and have a phenomenal amount of aftermarket support, but I tired of them. I wanted something special and now I have one.
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johnmcl said:
In short, you did well. Try out the HST 124gr HPs.
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Thank you. I will try those out once I have fired a few hundred rounds to break the gun in.

I was looking through numerous threads in other forums to find what bullet weight works best in Sig 9mm’s. It seems 124 grains is the favorite bullet weight.
 
"Get what you want or you won't be satisfied," has always been a Credo of mine. Otherwise you are just settling. The satisfaction and enjoyment of use is worth more then
a few extra dollars or wait time. Have fun with your SIGs.
 
Pat Riot said:
In the 90’s and early 2000’s I stuck with my 1911s. I wanted to buy an Sig but money was tight. I got deals on my 1911s but Sigs were never “on sale”.
In 2005 I wanted something new. I needed a change. A friend loaned me a Glock 17 for a couple of IDPA matches. My first was a G34 gen 3. The Glock was half the price of an Sig P226. That is how I got started with Glocks.
I am 64 now. A while back I decided to get the guns I had wanted for over 30 years. Especially after I discovered I could get them “New”. I am not a fan of used autoloaders. It’s a quirk of mine.
Glocks are definitely affordable and have a phenomenal amount of aftermarket support, but I tired of them. I wanted something special and now I have one.
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Sounds like we were at the same dance. I switched over to SIG's when I got tired of having to fiddle around with the 1911's. :)

Seems like there's no end to all this either. :rofl:
 
@5-SHOTS that’s a nice pistol. Nice shooting as well. I see you used Fiocchi ammunition. I like Fiocchi ammo. Good, reliable and consistent. :thumbup:
Thank you for posting the photos...

…and teasing me with your P226 :rofl:
 
Pat Riot said:
@5-SHOTS that’s a nice pistol. Nice shooting as well. I see you used Fiocchi ammunition. I like Fiocchi ammo. Good, reliable and consistent. :thumbup:
Thank you for posting the photos...

…and teasing me with your P226 :rofl:
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Thank you 😁
During the years I shot various ammo with this pistol: Fiocchi, Geco, Magtech, Sellier & Bellot, Cheddite Platinum, all from 123 to 124gr, mostly ball ammo but also some truncated cone and some copper plated ones like the Fiocchi Top Target Plus. My P226 seems to like them all without much change in the group performance or in the POI.
 
5-SHOTS said:
Thank you 😁
During the years I shot various ammo with this pistol: Fiocchi, Geco, Magtech, Sellier & Bellot, Cheddite Platinum, all from 123 to 124gr, mostly ball ammo but also some truncated cone and some copper plated ones like the Fiocchi Top Target Plus. My P226 seems to like them all without much change in the group performance or in the POI.
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Thank you. That is very good to know. I am not familiar with Geco or Cheddite ammunition, but I have shot the other 3. More Fiocchi than Magtech or S&B. All in 115 grain, though.
It looks like I will need to start buying and reloading 124 grain cartridges.😁
 
Pat Riot said:
Thank you. That is very good to know. I am not familiar with Geco or Cheddite ammunition, but I have shot the other 3. More Fiocchi than Magtech or S&B. All in 115 grain, though.
It looks like I will need to start buying and reloading 124 grain cartridges.😁
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Geco is a german ammo manufacturer and Cheddite is an italian ammo manufacturer mostly known for powder and shotgun ammo. I don't know if they are imported in the USA.
If I remember well my P226 is factory sighted to shoot slightly above the sights (six o'clock hold), like most of the pistols produced in Germany (my Walther P99 AS does the same). I guess that with 115gr or lighter ammo it would get closer or need the center hold.
In any case the front and rear sights are numbered and can be replaced with others of different heights.
 
5-SHOTS said:
Geco is a german ammo manufacturer and Cheddite is an italian ammo manufacturer mostly known for powder and shotgun ammo. I don't know if they are imported in the USA.
If I remember well my P226 is factory sighted to shoot slightly above the sights (six o'clock hold), like most of the pistols produced in Germany (my Walther P99 AS does the same). I guess that with 115gr or lighter ammo it would get closer or need the center hold.
In any case the front and rear sights are numbered and can be replaced with others of different heights.
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Actually Sigs are designed to " drive the dot" in combat shooting.
I became a Sig fan boy gradually after carrying a Sig 239 .40 in the late 90 s instead of my Officers model 1911. Much safer having a decocker DA/SA in my opinion for daily carry especially concealed. Then I got a hold of a West German 220 ..45 with a sweet trigger and found it was more accurate than most of my 1911 s and when. Ca
Came out with 10 round max magazine seemed a better way to go. Then I fell in love with the .357 Sig in a 226 with a rail I got from a Federal Agent who switched to Glock 19 for duty and off duty instead of the .357 Sig. I bought a 40 barrell and a 9 mm slide for it And had my SHTF pistol ! Then Gray Guns went thru my 220 and the 226 and they are magical. And my favorite blasters. I built a p 320 dot sighted for a hiking companion as it's light and weather resistant and has an Ultra low mount high end red dot. Gray Guns also pimped my Sig X ten into a bear defense special with a very kewl Red dot and big co witnessed iron sights. The P 239 in ,9 mm now has the factory threaded barrel and a suppressor in Oregon trust. For around the ranch.
 
Pat Riot said:
What is an “A1”?
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Looks like this was answered -- your version of the M11, which was simply the model number used by the military -- old German P228 was the original incarnation of the M11 and the new version is just a rebadged non-railed P229.

As other noted, you can use any older P228 or P229 mags in the new P229s and the M11A1 (they'll be a tad loose) but you cannot use the P229-1 marked mags in anything other than the new M11A1 and the new P229s...

Here are my favorite 228s and 229s...
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5-SHOTS said:
Geco is a german ammo manufacturer and Cheddite is an italian ammo manufacturer mostly known for powder and shotgun ammo. I don't know if they are imported in the USA.
If I remember well my P226 is factory sighted to shoot slightly above the sights (six o'clock hold), like most of the pistols produced in Germany (my Walther P99 AS does the same). I guess that with 115gr or lighter ammo it would get closer or need the center hold.
In any case the front and rear sights are numbered and can be replaced with others of different heights.
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I looked for Geco and Cheddite ammo here in the U.S. and it’s no where to be found so I guess they are not imported here.
That’s okay, we have a good selection to choose from.
 
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