My primary HD weapon is...

My primary HD weapon is...

  • Rifle, backed up by a handgun

    Votes: 31 9.7%

  • Shotgun, backed up by a handgun

    Votes: 133 41.4%

  • Handgun only

    Votes: 130 40.5%

  • Rifle only

    Votes: 11 3.4%

  • Shotgun only

    Votes: 16 5.0%
  • Total voters
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The reason I like the idea of a HD rifle is that with popular battle rifles, 30 round mags are quite common, sometimes even mags with a higher cap. are available. Rifles definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a "bump in the night", but I'd like to have a loaded one on hand in case
A) There is a large gang of criminals in my living room (high mag cap would be quite useful)
B) The people in my living room are carrying out a professional home invasion and are wearing body armor (.223 or 7.62x39 or similar would be a huge advantage)
C) The SHTF and Blue-helmeted paratroopers are falling from the sky. (Both mag cap and penetration would be helpful)
 
I'm looking to pick up an XD in .40, that will be my primary when I pick it up.

My backup will be a SAR-1. I dunno, I just think most bad guys will looking down the barrel of a SAR-1 and noticing a 40 rd clip might think whatever weapon they possess is not up to the task. Think of it as a psychological deterrent moreso than a practical HD weapon.

If I thought I was going to actually have to shoot someone, I'd prefer the XD in .40 with some plain sounding ammunition.

I'd honestly prefer to scare someone off rather than have to use violence.
 
I believe in the proper escalation of force...

First,


Second,


And when the SHTF big time, you've just called down the thunder...


:neener:
 
Handgun primary. SAR1 for backup if it looks really serious (and I have time to get to it.)
 
Living in a somewhat remote area I chose rifle/ handgun a Bushie .223 with some light HP ammo and a Colt 1911 with 230 grain HP ammo. I also have a readily available 870 if that just happens to be the HD weapon I grab.
 
I'm in the burbs. The dog is the alarm system. I would investigate any disturbance with a pistol and my lovely wife has the shotgun if it totally hits the fan.

I have to share a story. Awhile back we lived in an apartment complex. We'd just picked up our dog from the pound. He didn't know where home was or who was who yet. As luck would have it the very first night we had him somebody got into our apartment.

It was about 4:00 AM and I heard a noise by the door. The dog was sawing logs on my daughter's bed. I was alert and getting up when we heard the front door open I grabbed my .38 as the heavy footsteps came down the hall towards the bedrooms. Before I could get out of bed our door swung open and a guy reached in and turned on the light. My wife and I were bolt upright in bed and my gun was pointed right at him. He slurred "who are you guys?" I said "who the hell are you?"

He looked totally perplexed until he realised there was a gun pointing at him then he wheeled around and ran out of the apartment. I stumbled out of bed and gave chase in my boxers but this guy was really moving. I followed him out to the street and he just kept going. I came back in and could hear my wife talking to the police on the phone. I checked my daughter's room the dog looked up when the door opened and thumped his tail a couple times and went back to sleep.

When the cops came they explained that in a large complex this type of situation happens allot because there are maybe twenty unique keys and the rest are duplicates. This poor guy partied too hard got, lost in the complex and opened the wrong door. I'm just glad he came into our room as I probably would have shot him instantly if he had made it into our daughters room.
 
I'm another whose HD situation isn't easily answered in the poll.

My primarly HD gun (in that it is my always) is my Taurus 85. It is pretty much always loaded and it is sometimes on my person when around the house. Additionally, my .38spl Colt Police Positive Special is pretty much always loaded and ready to go, though it is pretty much never carried around the house anymore.

Other than that things vary. Sometimes it is only the handguns. Sometimes (only handguns or not) I add my 1911 or CZ 75B to the mix and have them loaded up or I use one of my other revolvers instead of or in addition to the Taurus and Colt. Often my Winchester 94AE in .45LC is loaded and ready to go. Often it is my Benelli Nova 18.5" 12ga that is backing up my handguns. Rarely it is my AR or SKS and even more rarely it was my Ruger 10/22 before I sold it.

But anyway, for me the most accurate way to put it is that the handgun is the always/primary often backed up by (not backing up) one of the long guns.

When I eventually get a .44spl or .45LC wheelgun it will probably replace the Colt for HD purposes. More power than the .38spl with less noise and recoil than a magnum, and for HD size isn't that big a deal (the big bores usually come in larger frame sizes).



Edit:

I answered this as if the question was primary HD gun (paid more attention to the poll than the name of the thread). My first go to weapon if someone breaks in (at night when it is more likely anyway) is a fixed blade knife. It is sheathed and spends the night pretty much in my bed (more or less) so if someone wakes me in the middle of the night most likely it gets grabbed first (unless I have time to get to my guns which are very near but not nearly as close). During the day and evening there is always a knife in my pocket but I'm not always carrying a gun around so if someone breaks in while I'm awake I will be getting to one of my folders much faster than I can get to my guns so the knife is in my hand first (though when I carry around the house this isn't necessarily the case).
 
To all you guys who answered with "my first HD weapon is a knife" , I must say you have big brass ones, and I offer this maxim: Never bring a knife to a gun fight.;)
 
Entropy

While I do have big brass ones, ;) please consider

The reason we do the Tueller drill is to prove to unbelievers that knife beats gun inside 20ft....YMMV

How big are the rooms in your house????

Well executed stab wounds are more likely to be fatal than most...but not all...gunshot wounds...lots of trauma

And we are not talking about standing 20ft away and then yelling GO!

We are talking about being up close and personal...probably in the dark

And with a knife...you don't have to worry about putting a round through the kids bedroom!

Now...if you have enough warning to get all your loved ones in a safe room....then...the gun wins....

You guys with the main battle rifles are gonna need to know sign language when you have to communicate with the police after the shooting is over:D

Ouch!
 
You guys with the main battle rifles are gonna need to know sign language when you have to communicate with the police after the shooting is over
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I'm feeling slow today, could you please explain ? Mebbe loss of hearing perhaps ?
 
There is one one way to get to the sleeping areas, and it is a perfect ambush/killing field for me. A BG would need to use a frag to dislodge me, he would be able to advance with a flash bang, but that would put him in front of any of six doors I could be behind, two of which would be behind him. I just can't see utilizing a knife in such a setting. It would place me at a huge disadvantage. I view a knife primarily as an offensive weapon (quiet sentry removal) or a defensive weapon of last resort, or something to grab just to be armed until I could get to my HD shotgun, rifle or pistol. But, if it works for you, great!:cool:
Something to consider, though:

While it is true knife wounds are generally more fatal, they are rarely immediately incapacitating, even a femoral artery wound won' t cause incapacitating shock immediately, it can be from 5 seconds up to a minute, on a drugged up, drunk, adernaline crazed stabee. One can fire a lot of rounds off in that time, and while it would be a Pyrric victory, the stabber could possibly be just as dead. I've done Tueller drills helping my Dad train, (he was a cop), and while I studied knife fighting techniques, and weapon retention/disarming techniques also, whichever of us had the gun, (pistol or shotgun) would always get a COM shot off. Since the guns just had snap caps in, we could only get one shot off in training. In a real situation, I'd keep firing until I and or he went down. Yes, the knife weilder always got one slash in, and usually a fatal one at that but they were shot about 75% of the time within 2 seconds after the slash, 100% within 5 seconds.
The one time I faced down a knife wielding drunk who was insinuating the friend I was with should die because enemy soldiers of the same ethnic group killed his father in Vietnam, he was 15 feet from me when I drew my 6" .357 from the shoulder holster. Fortunately for both of us, he decided to drop the knife. He was drunk enough that he could not have got a slash in before I dropped him with 125 gr. JHP's. I did not want to shoot him, I went to school with him. About two weeks later, I saw him and after apologizing profusely, he asked if I would have really shot him.
I cryptically replied, "What do you think?" :rolleyes:
 
Taurus .38spl with Federal Hydrashoks backed up by a Remington 870 with #4 buckshot
 
The reason we do the Tueller drill is to prove to unbelievers that knife beats gun inside 20ft....YMMV
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I believe the Teuller drill demonstrates that knife beats holstered gun inside 20 feet. With the gun out and the knife weilder at 20 feet or less, I believe the advantage goes to the guy with the gun, though as the range decreases we get much closer to what can only be described as a draw.

In my case the firearm(s) I have available for home defense is a handgun to deal with immediate threats with both a shotgun and rifle available close by for use as I deem necessary. All have weapon-mounted lights and an additional Surefire 6P is next to the pistol.
 
Allow me to elucidate (splain)

1. CC Yes I was referring to hearing loss touching of an MBR indoors:D

2. Gunshot wounds are often NOT immediately Incapacitating either

3. Knife beats holstered gun when both people know the drill is going to
occur.....in the dark...in my house....I am not going to say ready, set ,go!
And I did state YMMV

( Actually, in my house...in the dark....a baseball bat may beat a gun)
 
Ruger P90 .45 on the headboard, 870 near at hand. The SKS has loaded stripper clips beside it, and the Rem PSS .308 has ammo near it as well. These probably won't be the preferred weapons, but you never know. Oh, and the Rem Nylon 77 .22 is loaded with Calibri's (sp?). That's the only one that has been used yet....
 
I voted for "Shotgun backed by Pistol." In reality, it's Pistol backed by Shotgun.

If something goes down, I'm taking the pistol to round up the kid(s). My kid is not quite 2 yet, so she's not the most agile thing around. Basically, I don't want to be trying to work a shotgun with one hand while I have the kid in the other. Once I get the kids and wife rounded up, the shotty comes out and we go to work...
 
Obiwan,

"Gunshot wounds are often NOT immediately Incapacitating either"
Understood. Never said they were. They do tend to change your day's plans, as do knife wounds!

" Knife beats holstered gun when ...."
When's the last time you investigated a 'bump in the night' with your gun holstered? ;) Mine's at low ready when I do.

MMD V! (my mileage does vary!;) :D

MBR's indoors=:what: What! I can't hear you! Huh? SPEAK UP! :D
 
I voted Shotgun backed up by handgun, but there's not really a choice for me either, now that I think about it. My handgun is primary, I gan get to it without rolling out of bed. Then its on the the shotty in the corner (if I have time), which becomes my primary, backed up by my handgun.
 
My side of the bed - Witness 40 with HydraShoks
Her side of the bed - CZ 2075 RAMI with Winchester 115 gr JHP
Backup, second Witness 40, Winchester 1200 with sidesaddle, loaded with reduced recoil 00 Buck, and last ditch, Mosin M38 - muzzle blast ALONE will drive them out! Thinking an M44 might be better - bayonet might come in usefull.........:p
 
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