My 12 year old son (5'3" and 101 pounds) has duck and squirrel hunted with me for a couple of years now using a 20 gauge youth gun but last duck season at the end of the season we picked him up a used 870 Super mag 12 gauge. He had not fired it at all until today while we were shooting some informal clays. He was devastating using one ounce loads on clay targets. He is now a convert to the 12! Dad is surely proud!