No .22 mag handgun ever made "has had several thousand rounds through it, trouble-free." Failures to fire, unburnt powder under the extractor star causing failures to seat ammo properly and/or cylinder lockups, failures to extract empties because of powder-fouled charge holes, etc. are just the nature of the beast, i.e., shooting rifle ammo in a handgun. Sloppy craftsmanship just exacerbates the problems. So please cut the Taurus 941 walks on water stuff. I currently have three .22 mag handguns; a Colt and two S&Ws. I also still have a Taurus Tracker .44 mag because it was a keeper right out of the box. Yes, I agree, some Taurus handguns are keepers, for the money.
The gun itself has had no problems. Do you blame your own guns for bad ammo? No matter what you say, I own the gun, and have had zero problems with it. Perhaps it's because I keep it clean, and not over-lubed. I'm sorry if your .22 mags can't equal that.
I own a new S&W Model 617 that locked up the cylinder release after 25 rounds. It pushes in fine, but the cylinder will not release. It's been at S&W for the last twenty-three working days.
Your entire diatribe here smacks of a troll called on his story. I never said that Taurus walks on water. However, as my experience over the last 30 years has been far different than Internet Commando lore, it obviously makes someone feel put upon.
My son and I have owned at least seven Taurus revolvers; four that I can think of offhand never should have left the factory; they were junk out of the box: a .22, two .22 mags, a .357 and a 44 mag. That's a junk ratio of over 50%. In addition, one of the other three had to be repaired because of a faulty extractor, and it never was fully repaired. All told, that makes my personally experienced bad Taurus ratio five out of seven. And that doesn't count all the horror stories my friends and gunsmiths told me about. (They weren't lying.) Nor does it count all my maddening experiences with Taurus' so-called Customer Service staff and the Q.C. folks and Repair Dept.. Would you believe that they "fixed" the head space problem in my boy's .357 twice, yet returned it in the same inoperable condition? Now how's that for Q.C.? The gun store owner finally became so embarrassed that he gave my son his money back.
Yeah, stories from "people who aren't lying" are Internet staples. I currently own, as I said, 14 Taurus products. MY ratio is 100%
good. As for Customer Service, I'm certain that you're as combative with them as you are here, and you got exactly "what you sowed".
Three years ago the best gunsmith in Dallas told me, "Yes, I can fix your Taurus, but it will still be a Taurus." This year, the best-known gunsmith in OK told me that he refuses to work on a Taurus.
Names, please, otherwise it's just bunk.
Nevertheless, JR, I never said "Taurus is junk." I said to WifeofBleys that her "particular Taurus is junk" and that "Many Taurus weapons are junk, and many gunsmiths will not waste your money 'fixing' them." I'm not a "drive-by-poster", whatever that means. Nor am I a "professional Taurus basher" who only heard about other peoples' problems with Taurus. I was trying to convince her to cut her losses before she learned the hard way, as I and many others had to.
FYI,
I wasn't referring to you, nor to anything that you said. You've changed that by your posts tone and the trollish statements involving nameless experts and people "who don't lie". I will also ask that the "many others" be quantified. Taurus has been selling guns here for decades. I find it difficult to believe that they are still in business, and a leading maker of guns in America, if they are anywhere near as bad as
you say. S&W nearly went broke for a poor political choice, much less a company making such Internet Commando hated guns.
You, my friend, are a Taurus International supporter. Fine by me, but please don't go on line, ignore WifeofBleys' experience with her 941 and with customer service, which replicates my own and others' experience, and then say what you did about me. Some 20 or 30 years ago, when Taurus had an excellent Custom Shop and great customer service run by Bob Morrison (I think), it was a little better story.
So, the fact that my experiences are different than yours makes me a supporter? Well, if reporting that I've never had a problem makes me a supporter, so be it.
I didn't ignore the lady's problem. She
chose not to have the warranty honored by the manufacturer. End of story. However, Taurus asked her to send the gun in, after giving her the sane advice of trying different ammo. She bit on the ammo companies excuse about a "non-rebated cylinder", as, apparently
did you.
Last, but not least. Bob Morrison is the CEO of Taurus International today.
http://www.google.com/search?client...onal&spell=1&bav=on.1,or.&fp=3f40f95b1b9c7c0d
Check the date of the post.
Once again, I wasn't speaking of you. So, please, take your smug attitude and use it on someone who
might care. After all, why would anyone call BS on a post like this?
WifeofBleys, you know how, in the long run, it hurts less to take a bandage off with one, fast pull? Well here it is: Your particular Taurus is junk! It will be junk even if you have it fixed. They have your money; end of story.
Many Taurus weapons are junk, and many gunsmiths will not waste your money "fixing" them. It's not your fault, it's the fault of Taurus. Their "service" is not representative of the industry. Why do you think their prices are so low?
You will only wind up with ulcers if you try to have your 941 fixed or wonder how Taurus stays in business. Trust me; I've been shooting for over half of a century and Taurus "service" for many years has been an embarrassment to the industry. We all learn the hard way.
You should have had enough of them by now, so stop taking the bandage off one hair at a time to prolong the pain. Remember, it is not your fault. Get rid of it, now, in what ever way you please, and buy a S&W or even a Ruger. Both of those real gun makers will bend over backwards to make you happy.
FYI, there are currently several threads that contradict your last sentence. It would appear that "many people" don't share your picture of Ruger or S&W as "real gun makers". Huh! Who would have thought?
Peace, yourself.
They have lost a long time customer and gained a very bitter enemy.
